Back to the FUTURE? KORG pa 4 X.

Asena · Post by **Asena** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:33 pm

Hi guys, long time,
I must ask KORGIES, why they put 400 MB of sample Ram/rom in the new 4 x?
I cannot understand the logic of that,
Same Sound engine, same looking, same styles, and same old sounds!

newkorgguy · Post by **newkorgguy** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:45 pm

Wait wait wait,.. You are confusing me now,...
Confusing me same way another guy from this forum but luckily he is not that active anymore...

Not long ago, you were telling us that you have "secret" info about Korgs "new killer"... and now you are questioning pa4?

Or you perhaps have info on something "to be" released after pa4x? - maybe 2020 model???

Sam CA · Post by **Sam CA** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:04 pm

newkorgguy wrote:
Not long ago, you were telling us that you have `secret` info about Korgs `new killer`... and now you are questioning pa4?

That's right Asena, I do remember that comment! You weren't nearly as upset back then. Why so disappointed now all of a sudden? You already knew all about the new keyboard LONG time ago, didn't you?

Right here:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... ht=#618226

Looks like your contacts lied to you big time. You should really be mad at them for providing false info not Korg!

The ram size does sound strange because the word "megabyte" just doesn't exist in our daily life anymore. As far as the stock sounds go, Korg says they have upgraded those... . I haven't seen a Korg PA4x yet, so can't comment on that.

newkorgguy · Post by **newkorgguy** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:14 pm

'Cus him, and that 2nd guy, i must say his name (Nedim) are doing same/similar on all forums, English/Turkish/Greek/Bosnian........ spoken - they want all attention and they are just doing it wrong way.

Usually i ignore them/their comments, but i had to reply on this.

newkorgguy · Post by **newkorgguy** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:21 pm

And yes Sam, I was referring to that thread, and many more in past, regarding all different "i know" and "i have information".

And all of the sudden, info's are not correct, that is weird.

jimsweb · Post by **jimsweb** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:48 pm

newkorgguy wrote:Wait wait wait,.. You are confusing me now,...
Confusing me same way another guy from this forum but luckily he is not that active anymore...

Not long ago, you were telling us that you have "secret" info about Korgs "new killer"... and now you are questioning pa4?

Or you perhaps have info on something "to be" released after pa4x? - maybe 2020 model???

+100000000000000000

karmathanever · Post by **karmathanever** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:01 am

Asena wrote:Same Sound engine, same looking, same styles, and same old sounds!

Where did you get that info from?

(The same contact guy?)

Hmmmmmmmm……..

Sam CA · Post by **Sam CA** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:19 am

karmathanever wrote: Where did you get that info from?
(The same contact guy?)

Hmmmmmmmm……..

He should totally fire his contacts.... Like right now!

Asena · Post by **Asena** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:28 am

Well you guys are great, First of all, YES , I did say that Korg will come whit a new killer BUT, in a seminar in ISTANBUL, we have been told that there will be a New model, from KOrg that WILL have a new Sound engine!

They showed us some pictures that was totally different from what we have now!

They told us that the NEW KB will have at least 2 GB of sample ROM/RAM etc.

Did i believe them YES, they told us even that the name is not PA4X or so, but after all, We have this new KB Korg PA4 X!

Did i do something wrong ? NO i was excited and i believed to the KORG, and Yes i was expecting something that will change the concept of KB,s.

And another thing, When i was writing here last time, I was also excited for the

It,s not so hard to ad 1 or 2 GB of sample ram , And not so hard to understand that the sounds they are using is 20 years old now.

Is it a BAD KB, no of corse not, BUT in the same time, i was expecting better after this conversation whit people that is involved whit KORG that showed this 1,5 years ago.

I was hpling that they would have at least better RAM, Better sound engine whit new sounds .

all i can see so far is A NEW 3 X whit some ad ons like MP 3 multi recording feature..

You guys out there who think that i talked to much, Comon ask you,r self ARE YOU REALY SATISFIED whit this new model.
Is this a new Model or is this a upgrade from 3 x that they missed.

Also YES i really this this KB is a great KB IF the sample streaming feature is added on it.
For me the onboard sound are OK but not what i have in my library. That i want to load on the KB.
If i can have2 GB of stream, YES it,s the best KB ever from KORG,

In that seminar in ISTANBUL i heard from The Turkish dealer , That there will be a Huge step IF Korg can handle the samples whit Sample streaming like the Kronos.
And YES they told us that the LEGATO,s from Kronos will be added on the new model. BUT!
No streaming, No new Sound engine whit totally new sampled DK,s Pianos, Stringed, Synth etc, ...?
Disappointed YES of course.!
So back to the future, I hope they will explain this to us.

Turkey is one of the biggest market for KORG, and yes this could be better,
No one is here to confusing anyone, but after all it,s 2015, MB vs GB.
When i talked about something really cool will be here, It was the Sample streaming feature that KORG,s engineers promissed.
And after Kronos that i have in the studio, i was REALY expecting that they will have this feature in the new KB model.
So i,m the Bad person that was hoping, After my dealers in Sweden & Turkey told me that Korg will have this feature.
Lets see what happens then.

Sam CA · Post by **Sam CA** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:30 am

Asena, we're just messing with you man. If you read the older thread, you'll see that we never took you seriously. Hopefully you learned a lesson from this.

For your next seminar, you should consider going to Vietnam instead! Unlike your trusted dealer in Istanbul , those guys in Vietnam got the rumors right down to the release date and all. Read the forums and see it for yourself.

On a serious note, just chill and wait for the advance manual. Then, maybe you can invite your dealer friend to your own seminar and educate him about the new features.

karmathanever · Post by **karmathanever** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:04 am

Asena, we're just messing with you man.

+1

Asena
Don't be upset but please note that rumours of new PA's on these forums have a bad history - some are in fun and some serious.
We DID believe that you had information - in fact I took you seriously and was quite confused when we didn't get some of those features you mentioned a while ago.

Anyhow, as Sam says - check out the details when we get the manuals and yes, it does have a new sound engine and new styles and new sounds.

Take care (and stay with us!!)

Pete

Bachus · Post by **Bachus** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:58 am

Well, Asena has a point, they seem to be making as much steps ahead as they are making backwards...

However, if the sound has improved by half a mile, then scratching other features might actually be worth it. If you want to advanced in one direction with that 1990's processing hardware, you need to make room somehow for that better sound..

Eduardo_Arg · Post by **Eduardo_Arg** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:59 pm

Hi Friends:

In some way, ASENA is right.-
As he said, there is no new sound engine: EDS is more than 10 y. old.-
Also, i'm not sure PA4X SO let us tweak sounds & efects like on KROME, unless it come's with a software editor (like microstation or krome).-
About "new sound engine", perhap what Korg have done is mixing RX with old EDSi from Microstation.-
As Karmathanever said, we must stop speculating and wait for a serios Advance Manual.-
I agree with Sam CA, vietnamese site have's (i don't know how, but i suppose the must have a 007 inside Korg) allways fresh information.-
What dissapoint me is Korg political prices: for what i've seen on several great Korg dealer, new PA4x is - in some of them - more expensive than "the best keyb in the world" Kronos X; i think nobody can compare a PAXX with Kronos.-
It's crystal clear that both keyb points different end users, but technically Kronos is far away in capabilities than any other keyboard; so IMHO Korg political marketing puts on the same range of prices a Jaguar and Audi a3 (for example).-
We must wait, till we can go to a dealer and test this new keyboard.
With regards.
Eduardo

newkorgguy · Post by **newkorgguy** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:21 pm

Sam CA wrote:Asena, For your next seminar, you should consider going to Vietnam instead! Unlike your trusted dealer in Istanbul , those guys in Vietnam got the rumors right down to the release date and all. Read the forums and see it for yourself.

^
Or Ask Nedim!

- No No, don't ask him, that is a joke now!

Asena · Post by **Asena** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:51 am

Hi guys,

I,m really happy to start this .

I think and hope some one from KORG can read this and see what we was expecting from their new Flagship.

KOREA VIETNAM OR ISTANBUL, NO MATTER WHERE WE GO, THIS IS 2015,

If you look at the capability of a Tablet, And what an 7 year old kid can do on that, than why can,t we get better OS, and more on a 4000€ unit.?
400 mb of sample ram!Same sounds,
And realy I did not meant anything to confuse anyone here.

Don,t you guys like to have a KB like Kronos sound engine and style part that is totally NEW?Streaming Sample, Crunchy FX, Fast OS, Fast Processor, Totally New Styles, Audio Style part, Better Guitar Mode better Legato programmings No extra Outputs etc?

what i can hear from the demos and movies from net, Its no difference from the old styles, and sounds .For me it sounds like 3 X.

It,s not ok, to make a New KB that comes out after 3 X whit the same things , but some minor differences like multi recording on MP 3 files.

I may not be the best Information, BUT i,m a great Sound programmer, and i need just the feature that gives me free hands on making my sounds.
And some great FX on top of that, Whoolaa You got it!

If you go and listen to their new Guitar sounds,in the net,(NOT NEW) same sound, Whit a really bad vibrato on it, Well, than my sound is far better.

Pls Listen to this sound and compare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAXbLAj7Ryo

My point was never to harm anything on KB forums, I have this people always around me from Turkey, Every time i,m in Istanbul, i,m at KORG there, and YES this people have a chance to tell KORG Italy directly to make things that we miss on the models.
Some ideas and features comes from KORG TURKEY.!
So thats why i believed them, and what i can see now is that KORG is fooling even them,
for a while ago , when KORG PA 2 X was coming out, they promised many new features, And what happened is, NOTHING.

So YES i learned from this, and I will like you all, just sit and wait, Than if it,s worth to check it out, and maybe buy one Than i,m a Korg user, If Not, I will never see at Korg anymore.
The forum is like my family, and i really like you all, I,m gigging every week, and
I know what i can make from 20 mb , Bit also i know how it can sound whit 120MB. So if i really like to make a great sounding Guitar , I need 100 MB of sample ram for it.
I like the feature SoundFont loading on 4X, Not sure but that say can handle that, Than i can make all my sounds on my MAC and move it whit one click to 4X.
But if i got just 400 MB of Sample ram , I can have like 6 Sounds on it from my library.
And that scares me.
So lets see what comes out.
See you all, And Best reg.
Asena