Which boards can i get rid of

[scottgblood]

Ok guys,

So I have my Kronos 2 on order as I recon this is going to allow me to massively streamline my studio and I need to as I currently have no space for the Kronos haha.

So which of the below boards do you think I can definitely get rid of in favour of the Kronos.

-- Syths
King Korg
Ultranova
Korg M1 (love this machine)
Tempest
Nord Lead 2X

-- Racks
Nord Drum
Arturia Spark
Moog Slim Phatty
Integra 7 (used once)

A couple of bits of kit I will be keeping regardless are my Trinity as this was my very first every synth bought because I seen one used by Space on top of the pops when they were playing female of the species and my emu orbit.

Cheers Scott[/list]

[SanderXpander]

I would get rid of the Trinity haha. It's the closest to the Kronos out of all of them. Perhaps the M1 too.

But seriously, don't get rid of anything until after a few months. The Kronos does a lot but it's no 1:1 direct replacement for any of them and you may find that there are some sounds in the other ones that you're just inexplicably in love with and can't replace. Even the Trinity and M1 have a certain character that isn't always easy to recreate, no matter if the Kronos is much more advanced and has almost all of the necessary samples/parameters.

[phattbuzz]

I'm with SanderXpander on this. Keep all your boards and if there are certain sounds you really want see if you can emulate or sample them into the Kronos.

[scottgblood]

I'm with SanderXpander on this. Keep all your boards and if there are certain sounds you really want see if you can emulate or sample them into the Kronos.

Good point from you both keep them, sample them all, then decide which ones can go on flea bay.

[GregC]

Ok guys,

So I have my Kronos 2 on order as I recon this is going to allow me to massively streamline my studio and I need to as I currently have no space for the Kronos haha.

So which of the below boards do you think I can definitely get rid of in favour of the Kronos.

-- Syths
King Korg
Ultranova
Korg M1 (love this machine)
Tempest
Nord Lead 2X

-- Racks
Nord Drum
Arturia Spark
Moog Slim Phatty
Integra 7 (used once)

A couple of bits of kit I will be keeping regardless are my Trinity as this was my very first every synth bought because I seen one used by Space on top of the pops when they were playing female of the species and my emu orbit.

Cheers Scott[/list]

easy. sample what you need. sell them all

welcome to the simple, uncomplicated keyboard club

[PCFREE]

Ok guys,

So I have my Kronos 2 on order as I recon this is going to allow me to massively streamline my studio and I need to as I currently have no space for the Kronos haha.

So which of the below boards do you think I can definitely get rid of in favour of the Kronos.

-- Syths
King Korg
Ultranova
Korg M1 (love this machine)
Tempest
Nord Lead 2X

-- Racks
Nord Drum
Arturia Spark
Moog Slim Phatty
Integra 7 (used once)

A couple of bits of kit I will be keeping regardless are my Trinity as this was my very first every synth bought because I seen one used by Space on top of the pops when they were playing female of the species and my emu orbit.

Cheers Scott[/list]

easy. sample what you need. sell them all

welcome to the simple, uncomplicated keyboard club

Is the Kronos your only keyboard, Greg?

[SanderXpander]

I know you were partly joking, but seriously, sampling is a terrible solution for most of those boards

[GregC]

Ok guys,

So I have my Kronos 2 on order as I recon this is going to allow me to massively streamline my studio and I need to as I currently have no space for the Kronos haha.

So which of the below boards do you think I can definitely get rid of in favour of the Kronos.

-- Syths
King Korg
Ultranova
Korg M1 (love this machine)
Tempest
Nord Lead 2X

-- Racks
Nord Drum
Arturia Spark
Moog Slim Phatty
Integra 7 (used once)

A couple of bits of kit I will be keeping regardless are my Trinity as this was my very first every synth bought because I seen one used by Space on top of the pops when they were playing female of the species and my emu orbit.

Cheers Scott[/list]

easy. sample what you need. sell them all

welcome to the simple, uncomplicated keyboard club

Is the Kronos your only keyboard, Greg?

yes, as per my signature

But I do not gig. If I did, I would have some type of basic backup.
Likely an iPad with a few apps would get it done.

I use to have the usual board collection, Motif, Fantom, older Korgs. But they got little use once the Kronos arrived. I am not a collector, so to speak.

[scottgblood]

I know you were partly joking, but seriously, sampling is a terrible solution for most of those boards

Partly joking yes, but I seriously don't think I have the patience to sample every single sound, were are talking 10's of thousands here and I recon I have used about 0.01% of them in any form of production.

I have too many boards, I am an impulse buyer in reality, I hear something, love the sound, I buy.

Have had my eye on the Kronos for years but always got distracted from buying it by the support and usage the OASYS got, but now they have released V2 and shown solid support for it, I am in in in in.

[GregC]

I know you were partly joking, but seriously, sampling is a terrible solution for most of those boards

Partly joking yes, but I seriously don't think I have the patience to sample every single sound, were are talking 10's of thousands here and I recon I have used about 0.01% of them in any form of production.

thats my experience , even though I would really have to want that particular sound ( to sample) and really need it to get by. You will find a lot of excellent free stuff to help out , too. Its much easier to fund a Kronos when you have existing quality boards to sell

[phattbuzz]

I know you were partly joking, but seriously, sampling is a terrible solution for most of those boards

To a degree. For most of the synths you can probably get very close to the sound you need by using one of the analog modeling synths in the Kronos. You'll find the AL1 filters will approximate most filters from different manufacturers (but not as easily to program as the King Korg). Of course it may take some time to learn how to program these sounds, but if you've programed all of these other synthesizers then you should have a good understanding of synthesis. I'm sure there are some very basic sounds in the Integra that would be good for sampling.

[SanderXpander]

For some basic examples of why I said what I did;
Most people who own a KingKorg have commented on the excellent filter models, and those who own a Kronos AND a KingKorg bought the KK AFTER the Kronos because the KK's filters are so much nicer (or complementary to the Kronos). You can't really sample that unless you're satisfied with fixed settings or sweeps.

The Nord's strength (apart from, again, the filter) is in its control surface. You can't sample that.

The Integra's strength is in it's scripting-like approach to acoustic sounds. You can't sample that.

The Arturia Spark is a drum machine with a sequencer, pads and knobs that lend creativity while building beats. You can't sample that.

If all we're talking is basic oscillators or static sounds, knock yourself out, but the POINT (in my opinion) of those machines is something that can't be sampled.

[scottgblood]

I know you were partly joking, but seriously, sampling is a terrible solution for most of those boards

To a degree. For most of the synths you can probably get very close to the sound you need by using one of the analog modeling synths in the Kronos. You'll find the AL1 filters will approximate most filters from different manufacturers (but not as easily to program as the King Korg). Of course it may take some time to learn how to program these sounds, but if you've programed all of these other synthesizers then you should have a good understanding of synthesis. I'm sure there are some very basic sounds in the Integra that would be good for sampling.

I am yet to hear a board or rack that can beat the integra when it comes to acoustic and brass instruments.

I do have an old technics kn7000 arranger lying around and it does make me realise what little progress has been made around the realiastic behaviour of stock instruments such asfuitars and brass / woodwind. The KN7000 has been defunced for years, yet the sounds it produces can still kick the ass of most modern boards.

Thanks

[ThunderKeys]

So the King Korg's filters are superior to the Kronos?

[GregC]

I know you were partly joking, but seriously, sampling is a terrible solution for most of those boards

To a degree. For most of the synths you can probably get very close to the sound you need by using one of the analog modeling synths in the Kronos. You'll find the AL1 filters will approximate most filters from different manufacturers (but not as easily to program as the King Korg). Of course it may take some time to learn how to program these sounds, but if you've programed all of these other synthesizers then you should have a good understanding of synthesis. I'm sure there are some very basic sounds in the Integra that would be good for sampling.

I am yet to hear a board or rack that can beat the integra when it comes to acoustic and brass instruments.

I do have an old technics kn7000 arranger lying around and it does make me realise what little progress has been made around the realiastic behaviour of stock instruments such asfuitars and brass / woodwind. The KN7000 has been defunced for years, yet the sounds it produces can still kick the ass of most modern boards.

Thanks

thats a fair point. If i was into more exacting brass/wind instruments, I would purchase a breath controller.

I also play some guitar- IMO, the various keyboards offer various approximations of guitar sounds. Plus so much of playing a guitar part on a keyboard does involve understanding actual picking, bending notes and strumming.

Adding distortion, using the ribbon and or pitch bend is ok. As we have noticed, Keyboardists have not actually replaced guitar players in bands.