master keyboard fatar 88, when key off, strange sound

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master keyboard fatar 88, when key off, strange sound

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hi, i has conected a fatar (sl880 and sl760 ) to pa3x ,and when i release the key, play another sound, so.... i play a chord,play ok, but when i take off my fingers, play another sound like a klang klang klang
i use midi setting master keyboard, and change chord channel 1 and 2, but no answer.
what is it ??????
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Re: mastger keyboard fatar 88, when key off, strange sound

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pablomariana wrote:hi, i has conected a fatar (sl880 and sl760 ) to pa3x ,and when i release the key, play another sound, so.... i play a chord,play ok, but when i take off my fingers, play another sound like a klang klang klang
i use midi setting master keyboard, and change chord channel 1 and 2, but no answer.
what is it ??????
thanks
You wrote, "change chord channel 1 and 2." They both need to be set to OFF or a master keyboard will not work properly. Use the MIDI in channel settings in the GLOBAL --> MIDI settings to send those MIDI commands to the Global option described in the manual as follows:
Any channels with the Global option assigned (see “MIDI: MIDI
In Channels” on page 212) can simulate the Pa3X integrated keyboard.
When the Pa3X is connected to a master keyboard, transmission
should take place over the Global channel of the Pa3X.
As well as having an 88 key master keyboard to play on instead of a smaller PA3X keyboard, I have also used other 25 and 49-note keyboards to play, for example, UPPER 3 and use that voice slot to trigger a solo instrument. It must be un-muted and to avoid the upper half of the PA3X keyboard playing that UPPER 3 sound, I restrict the key range setting upper and lower parameter all to one top-most note. The other keyboard I set to a free MIDI IN channel directed to UPPER 3 play instead of GLOBAL. Works great! Hope this contributes toward your solution of a problem.
Mr. Kim Gardner, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Korg PA3X-76 and PA-50 gig backup unit. Roland RD-800 Master 88 note piano keyboard. TC-Helicon VoiceLive 3
PA1X-Pro 2 units acquired in 2004 and became a forum member. Traded these in to get one PA3X-Pro-76 on July 25, 2014. Kurzweil PC88-MX (acq'd. 1995, stored), Korg EC-5 foot pedal switch,Roland DP-10 sustain pedals, Roland PK-5A dynamic MIDI 1 octave 13 pedal organ bass pedalboard, Behringer continuous control expression pedal. Kontact Komplete Ultimate 7, 8, 9, now 10 with Guitar Rig Controller Foot pedal board. Sonar Producer. MIDI controllers: Behringer FCB1010, Akai professional LPK25, M-Audio Axiom 49 MIDI controller , M-Audio Axiom 25 MIDI controller. 50+ years musical performance experience, Union Musician, Local 293, Hamilton.
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Did setting CHORD CHANNEL 1 and 2 to OFF solve the problem?
Mr. Kim Gardner, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Korg PA3X-76 and PA-50 gig backup unit. Roland RD-800 Master 88 note piano keyboard. TC-Helicon VoiceLive 3
PA1X-Pro 2 units acquired in 2004 and became a forum member. Traded these in to get one PA3X-Pro-76 on July 25, 2014. Kurzweil PC88-MX (acq'd. 1995, stored), Korg EC-5 foot pedal switch,Roland DP-10 sustain pedals, Roland PK-5A dynamic MIDI 1 octave 13 pedal organ bass pedalboard, Behringer continuous control expression pedal. Kontact Komplete Ultimate 7, 8, 9, now 10 with Guitar Rig Controller Foot pedal board. Sonar Producer. MIDI controllers: Behringer FCB1010, Akai professional LPK25, M-Audio Axiom 49 MIDI controller , M-Audio Axiom 25 MIDI controller. 50+ years musical performance experience, Union Musician, Local 293, Hamilton.
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thanks but..... no possible...no way
the same strange sound when key off
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so....anybody knows the answer ????
thanks
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Which MIDI channel are you using to go from the Fatar to the PA3X?
What is MIDI in set to for that channel?
What MIDI in filters are applied to that channel?
Mr. Kim Gardner, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Korg PA3X-76 and PA-50 gig backup unit. Roland RD-800 Master 88 note piano keyboard. TC-Helicon VoiceLive 3
PA1X-Pro 2 units acquired in 2004 and became a forum member. Traded these in to get one PA3X-Pro-76 on July 25, 2014. Kurzweil PC88-MX (acq'd. 1995, stored), Korg EC-5 foot pedal switch,Roland DP-10 sustain pedals, Roland PK-5A dynamic MIDI 1 octave 13 pedal organ bass pedalboard, Behringer continuous control expression pedal. Kontact Komplete Ultimate 7, 8, 9, now 10 with Guitar Rig Controller Foot pedal board. Sonar Producer. MIDI controllers: Behringer FCB1010, Akai professional LPK25, M-Audio Axiom 49 MIDI controller , M-Audio Axiom 25 MIDI controller. 50+ years musical performance experience, Union Musician, Local 293, Hamilton.
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hi, midi chanel 1 fatar ( i has tried too en others chanels)
midi set 1:global
filter: i has tried with all filters...... all of them
chord channel 1 off and 2 off
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i has tried too en my pa600, and the fatar master is ok,
so the problem is when use the pa3x.......
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These glitches are very frustrating. I have a similar situation with my Kurzweil PC88. I'm keeping up the awareness so that hopefully you will get the right eyes on it!
Mr. Kim Gardner, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Korg PA3X-76 and PA-50 gig backup unit. Roland RD-800 Master 88 note piano keyboard. TC-Helicon VoiceLive 3
PA1X-Pro 2 units acquired in 2004 and became a forum member. Traded these in to get one PA3X-Pro-76 on July 25, 2014. Kurzweil PC88-MX (acq'd. 1995, stored), Korg EC-5 foot pedal switch,Roland DP-10 sustain pedals, Roland PK-5A dynamic MIDI 1 octave 13 pedal organ bass pedalboard, Behringer continuous control expression pedal. Kontact Komplete Ultimate 7, 8, 9, now 10 with Guitar Rig Controller Foot pedal board. Sonar Producer. MIDI controllers: Behringer FCB1010, Akai professional LPK25, M-Audio Axiom 49 MIDI controller , M-Audio Axiom 25 MIDI controller. 50+ years musical performance experience, Union Musician, Local 293, Hamilton.
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Piano Fx Key Off

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i see the problem...... the strange sound come from Piano Fx Key Off L and R, from ROM sound 13,12
why the fatar keyboard play the piano fx key off, and the pa3x keyboard dont play it?
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I don't know much about this but could it be that the Pa3x is measuring key off velocity correctly while the Fatar is doing maximum velocity for every note. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the midi standard does not include key off velocities.
You could fix this problem by using only sounds that don't use key off velocities.
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Yes, i need to down the level of key off piano fx to zero in each osc, thanks
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