My simple wish for next Korg Pa arranger

BiHSound · Post by **BiHSound** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:09 pm

Hi,

I hope someone from Korg will see my wish, and find it interesting.

I am a Korg Pa user for a very long time, and almost had them all (the cheaper ones and the expensive ones). Every Pa comes with a music holder, which I find to be old school. Honestly, isn't it more convenient to have all of the sheet music on an tablet, or a PC. So my wish is:

For the next Pa arranger can you include an optional mounting holder for tablets, mic booms, PC monitors, etc.?

For example, the following is a third-party mounting holder for Tyros arrangers and I find it VERY COOL and I think this should be included by the manufacturer:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_tyro ... holder.htm

kgardner53 · Post by **kgardner53** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:51 pm

BiHSound wrote:... Every Pa comes with a music holder, which I find to be old school. ...
For the next Pa arranger can you include an optional mounting holder for tablets, mic booms, PC monitors, etc.?

The PA3X body has slots for the speaker system and the music rack. I have found those easy to use for easy-on, easy-off device holders of my own design whether constructed of plexiglass, wood, or metal.

For example, the following is a third-party mounting holder for Tyros arrangers and I find it VERY COOL and I think this should be included by the manufacturer:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_tyro ... holder.htm

I have considered something like this Tyros design that actually screws onto the body but rejected that design as being too abusive to the body if I needed to mount/dismount it frequently for transportation in my SKB hardshell case. That being said, this Tyros one looks like sturdy machined aluminum extrusion and very multi-purpose! Excellent design in many ways.

I have experimented with different ways to have the ultimate microphone holder that would offer ease of repositioning and stability along with an out-of-the-way store away spot for the performance of instrumental-only selections. Additionally, for health institutional music therapy use, I have a keyboard stand setup complete with amplification and microphone stand/holder that allows me to move it on the 4 swivel casters from performance room to room. It can hold damper, expression, EC5, seat and bass pedalboard. I use this for gigs where I have to quickly get off stage etc. but the one drawback was speaker vibration transfer up the frame and microphone stand into the microphone. So, I use an elastic style vibration-isolation holder for the microphone and select an AUDIX OM7 (highly recommend this microphone!) which has a hyper-cardoid pattern and does not pick up the instrument and attempt to harmonize those dulcet tones! Sounds like musical trash! That's one of the reasons that I applaud heartily the physical microphone ON/OFF button on the console!

AUDIX OM7 microphone: Designed for concert level and touring PA system - low output gain stage provides unprecedented gain before feedback in monitors.

The OM7 is used by professional sound companies, front of house and mixing engineers as well as high profile fixed installations. The OM7 provides unprecedented gain before feedback on concert level stages without sacrificing sound quality. In addition, the mic is very resistant to feedback on extremely loud stages and for performers who tend to “cup” the microphone with both hands.
In order to achieve these extraordinary performance benefits, the OM7 is designed with an unconventionally low output level (8-10 dB lower than typical dynamic microphones). This low output level acts as a natural “pad” at the capsule in order to maintain high fidelity at the source. The OM7 is best suited for use with high quality mixing consoles which have plenty of head room to compensate for the low gain. http://www.audixusa.com/docs_12/units/OM7.shtml

striphio · Post by **striphio** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:50 pm

My simple request is quality keybed like on M3 61 or Kronos.

karmathanever · Post by **karmathanever** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:10 am

Nice idea but I have a problem with it...

After I buy the new PA4X-KARMA-76 I will not be able to afford an iPad!!!!

As an aside, I like the USB "lock" feature on the Roland VR09 (my latest purchase!!) - it's very simple and just requires an Allen Key (hex key) so if the local data thief turns up, he will need his toolbox!!!

Pete

deepak · Post by **deepak** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:18 pm

BiHSound wrote:Hi,

I hope someone from Korg will see my wish, and find it interesting.

I am a Korg Pa user for a very long time, and almost had them all (the cheaper ones and the expensive ones). Every Pa comes with a music holder, which I find to be old school. Honestly, isn't it more convenient to have all of the sheet music on an tablet, or a PC. So my wish is:

For the next Pa arranger can you include an optional mounting holder for tablets, mic booms, PC monitors, etc.?

For example, the following is a third-party mounting holder for Tyros arrangers and I find it VERY COOL and I think this should be included by the manufacturer:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_tyro ... holder.htm

Dont expect much when it comes to support. The support in Canada is the worst. Leave a message and good luck with the response. Lol.

karmathanever · Post by **karmathanever** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:11 pm

Just remember - don't leave your wishes here other than to share them.
This is not a Korg owned website.

Get your wishes to Korg directly if you are serious about them.

Pete

Dikikeys · Post by **Dikikeys** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:01 pm

Your main issue with having an integrated holder is, the form factor for all the different iPads, Surfaces, tablets etc. changes so often, far faster than most of us update our arrangers.

Not to mention, even the connectivity ports keep changing... You could quite possibly find yourself having to use a tablet years too old (might not even run the latest OS or apps) simply because that's all the arranger is built to accommodate.

In the meantime, there are plenty of keyboard stands out there with a plethora of mounting options. I think you are better served having the stand do your needs than the keyboard itself... you are going to HAVE to put it on one anyway!

DonM · Post by **DonM** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:11 pm

FWIW, I emailed Korg USA again today expressing my displeasure over the missing chord recognition mode. By now they are quaking at their desks, frantically sending text and email messages through the proper channels to at last address this situation!
Right?
DonM

karmathanever · Post by **karmathanever** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:57 am

Right?

Definitely not.
I single request is not going to excite any manufacturer - sorry.

DonM · Post by **DonM** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:07 pm

Yes I know. I was being sarcastic, but if enough of us do that, it might have an effect. Griping about something on this forum won't do any good, as far as I know, but contacting Korg MIGHT.
DonM

Sam CA · Post by **Sam CA** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:51 pm

I also found this kind of weird. I can see why they would want to eliminate features such as vocal harmonizer, sliders, mp3 players, vocal remove features, Chord sequencer...etc .....but the chord recognition feature? Really? That's just a basic way of playing an electronic instrument. They should've just left it alone.

Dikikeys · Post by **Dikikeys** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:39 pm

DonM wrote:Yes I know. I was being sarcastic, but if enough of us do that, it might have an effect. Griping about something on this forum won't do any good, as far as I know, but contacting Korg MIGHT.
DonM

This is, of course, assuming that Korg don't come here and troll...

I know probably everyone thinks they don't, but put your mind around that for a second. Korg can't be bothered to take a daily look (takes me 10 minutes to get through most of this each day) at the concerns and thoughts of their MOST loyal customers, right?

What kind of business model is that?

Are you beginning to see why I often have little but scorn for these people?

What could they gain from a few minutes of their time... other than an intimate knowledge of how their product is being received, used, criticized, praised and what future needs are? But, what well run business wants to know THAT?!

Far better to completely ignore us, eh? After all, what do WE know about what arranger players need...?

kgardner53 · Post by **kgardner53** » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:11 pm

I raised the issue concerning voice processor harmony voices not following the master fine tuning in the case that someone wants to use A432hz tuning even though my TC Helicon Voice Live 3 is capable of doing so. A senior person in the PA dept. replied that nobody had ever commented on that to his knowledge. Once you have a clear statement or description of an issue, it is probably worth advising KORG although, a single voice is easy to dismiss. A large number of letters/emails is not quite as easy to dismiss. Getting enough support for one's concerns here would be a sign of the membership's solidarity. If the issue doesn't "float one's boat" one probably won't come to the aid of your fellow users.

Some of the issues that can be raised are seed thoughts for research and development teams to work on. If there is no expressed interest, it likely won't cross their mind at KORG. Computer engineers only program what they are asked to program.

Giner · Post by **Giner** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:31 am

Diki, Stephen Kay is contributing to a current thread on these forums, Paolo Trammanoni looks in from time to time and Rich Formidoni does, also. So Korg is cognisant of this forum, maybe not to the degree you'd prefer. But they are about.

DonM · Post by **DonM** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:17 pm

Then I surely wish one of them would comment about the missing chord mode on the new keyboards!
Let me know if they plan to restore it, or if I should start shopping for another brand.
DonM

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