Sound cutting while changing patches

Ricky_jcr · Post by **Ricky_jcr** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:42 am

As the topic says,

Is there no way to keep the program/combi sounding (with a sus damper or otherwise) even after I've selected a different patch?

For example, I have a pad sound where I'm holding down a chord, and I change the selected program/combi on the screen to a piano, I don't want the pad sound to disappear abruptly when I touch the screen.

This is turning out out to be a major problem live.

Any help appreciated,
thanks,
Ricky

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:14 am

There are few synths who can do that (continuing the sound when changing program/combi). On the Kronos it is called SST (I think, Smooth Sound Transition).

However, what you can do is make a combi and combine all sounds you need. Then mute/unmute timbres (or with use of a switch and e.g. a compressor/limiter IFX) to make the timbres audible when needed.

Ricky_jcr · Post by **Ricky_jcr** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:18 pm

I don't get how a Limiter works, could you please explain a bit more?
Thanks

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:21 pm

Ricky_jcr wrote:I don't get how a Limiter works, could you please explain a bit more?
Thanks

I also would have to check more, however in short it is:

- In a combi, assign the timbres you want to mute/unmute to a IFX set to a limiter/compressor
- Make this IFX that is is changable by AMS and set it to -100 or +100%.
- Then you can use the AMS to affect the timbres going through that IFX

Enri · Post by **Enri** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:18 pm

I use the ifx st. graphic eq for this kind of stuff.

1. You assign the sounds you want to mute or unmute to this ifx.
2. Go to the ifx page where you have your effect and set all bands to -18.0
3. set it to dry
4. set src to sw1
5. set amt to +100

Every time you press sw1 your selected sounds will be muted. You can assign at src w/e you want, I used sw1 as an example.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:47 pm

I would really really not do it with setting the bands to -18dB. Your sound won't be muted but destroyed. There should be a "trim" control, set that to zero instead, with the same other steps.

Enri · Post by **Enri** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:27 pm

you are wrong sander, after setting it to -18 db you won't hear a thing anymore, at least not while other loud sounds are present

p.s. if you don't like the fact that your sound is still present although at a very low volume that you can barely hear it even with nothing else playing, you can use the limiter same drill only set the gain adjust to -inf. You won't hear a thing.

I personally prefer the graphic method, not sure why, it makes the sound disappearing more smooth.

Ricky_jcr · Post by **Ricky_jcr** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:31 am

Ah I see, thanks for the help guys! Virtual beer for all of you

But there's this one thing, in the Kronos, when you use SST (as MK said), and you're holding down a chord with the damper, and THEN you switch to a piano, the pad sound of that chord continues, and you can even play the piano on top of it (without exhausting polyphony).

Can it be done on the Krome?

roger2600 · Post by **roger2600** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:26 am

no the Krome resets the damper after a prg or combi change