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creating a combi?

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Hello all, good friday to you. My question is how to? I've created them before, but, for the life of me , I can't remember how I did it.javascript:emoticon(':D') I may be getting daft, but I would swear there was a "create combi" pop up button somewhere on the kronos, or something similar. From there I could enter the name, etc. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

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For a start, press the COMBI mode button (next to Program and Seq).

Press one of the Bank buttons, such as User C000. This should be an initialized Combi and you should be on the Combi's ProgSelect/Mixer page.

If you want to layer a few programs, press the TimbreParameter tab and go to the MIDI page. Set however many programs you want to Channel 1. You may want to do this, as you add each Program, so you don't get a big stack of noise.

If you want to make splits (one sound on low keys, another on higher keys), press the MIDI Filter/Zones tab and go the Keyboard Zones page. You can shift their Pitch, back on the Timbre Parameter section.


Be sure to save all your changes by Naming and Writing the Combi.
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Many thanks!
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stormking69 wrote:Hello all, good friday to you. My question is how to? I've created them before, but, for the life of me , I can't remember how I did it.javascript:emoticon(':D') I may be getting daft, but I would swear there was a "create combi" pop up button somewhere on the kronos, or something similar. From there I could enter the name, etc. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Actually, the very best way to learn about making a Combi - and all the things you can do with them and put into them, is to watch Rich Formidoni's excellent presentation about it. He starts this video answering that very question you ask:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WSqWNsZQWk

Watching beyond the combi part will teach you a lot more, but by far this is the best video I've seen for making Combi's.
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I was trying to make a simple split keyboard Combi with piano on the lower keys and an organ patch on the upper keys. I already had two patches that I loved and had already tweaked to my liking. Once I was finished, I noticed that the organ had none of the original IFX’s. Is there an easy way to copy our effects from an existing patch over to that same batch in a newly created Combi?
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Just go up to the drop down menu on the right hand top of the screen and select 'Copy From Program'. Then select what effects you want copied... All IFX, etc. This should solve the problem.
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firstlovedan wrote:Just go up to the drop down menu on the right hand top of the screen and select 'Copy From Program'. Then select what effects you want copied... All IFX, etc. This should solve the problem.
I followed your instructions and what seemed to occur was that both the upper and lower split had the organ patch and the effects were across both the lower keys and the upper keys. I corrected it by switching the lower back to my piano patch and switching it back to L/R.
I was wondering how I could have done this if I had wanted just a reverb on the lower piano?
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Check your MFX settings. Follow the effects routing. You can turn the MFX levels down on the instrument/track you do not want effects on.
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You can't actually use copy all IFX each time as it will overwrite the settings for your previous program. Use "all" for the first program and "all used" for any subsequent programs.
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firstlovedan wrote:Just go up to the drop down menu on the right hand top of the screen and select 'Copy From Program'. Then select what effects you want copied... All IFX, etc. This should solve the problem.
I tried this with a different combi today and it seemed like it copied the effects to all three of my programs within the combi even though I only selected timbre 02, my organ sound. What am I doing wrong?
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It seems like you skipped over my previous reply.
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Cobra Jet wrote:
firstlovedan wrote:Just go up to the drop down menu on the right hand top of the screen and select 'Copy From Program'. Then select what effects you want copied... All IFX, etc. This should solve the problem.
I tried this with a different combi today and it seemed like it copied the effects to all three of my programs within the combi even though I only selected timbre 02, my organ sound. What am I doing wrong?
just do what SanderXpander said,

use the "use IFX" instead of "all ifx" checkbox.

based on all the posts you do here on thia forum i have a feeling that you don't really read the things people are saying or read the manuals. I would advise you to watch my tutorial about creating combis, then you can do all this simple stuff and a lot more complex things.

The best way to learn it is to watch the video once without reading the screens on the right, then watch it again and pause the video at each step page on the screen. Then do the steps yourself. After finishing this you will understand some of the things a lot more then when you try to explore things yourself. Sure it takes time to learn it, but it takes a lot more time to try to figure things out without reading manuals or tutorials.

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I agree that sometimes I have a tendency miss something that people are trying to tell me. Unfortunately for me, my Kronos and my computer are in two different rooms, so unless I print out what someone tells me to try, I may not get it exactly right from reading it, to implementing it. I don’t think that is the case this time. I setup my Kronos in my office now so I can follow along easily.

Here is what I have so far. I made a new Combi using three Programs, two I created from scratch and one is I-B075. I split these along the keyboard three ways. Now that I have these saved in my new Combi, I have lost the rotary affect that was already in B075 as well as the chorus and reverb I setup in one of my custom programs. Following SanderXpander advice, I tried to do a Copy from Program and use “all used”. When I do this is seems to layer the sound as well as the effect across all three splits using the program I selected in the Program at the very top of the “Copy from Program” page. I also looked into the MFX settings as recommended and I seem to have no MFX. I would exit out of this Combi so it would not save anything and I started again using several different settings from the “Copy from Program” page and all sound the same. I watched Qui’s video and I plan on starting a new Combi in the order he is recommending since it is different than the order I made my Combi and see if that makes a difference.

I really appreciate all the advice I have received here and without it, I surely would have pulled out all my hair by now. I don’t want to sound like I’m not grateful, because nothing could be further from the truth. My one complaint is as a novice, I sometimes feel like the advice is given in a manner that one doctor might give to another doctor and not like a doctor might give advice to a first year medical student or patient. I can appreciate how expert members may get tired of answering the same questions over and over again or get frustrated if you feel the I’m not even trying to find the answer myself.
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So I followed Qui’s video step by step and it worked great. All the effects seems to be exactly as they were on the original programs. It ended being a lot easier doing it as he suggested rather than adding the programs to the new Combi first and then adding the effects after. I don’t pretend to understand why, but I was so happy with how it sounded, I rebuilt several of my Combi’s that I created my old way that seemed to sound flat.

Thanks to all that offered advice to me. I really do appreciated it.

Mark
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