Austrian piano ++

Francois · Post by **Francois** » Wed May 30, 2012 10:20 am

All three have their places, simply because it's not always the one that sounds better to our ears that will sit best in your mix. So it's always worth trying a Steinway, a Yamaha and a Bösendorfer sound when trying out instruments for your tracks. Sometimes, results are surprising and not at all what you expected when you started. The sound of an individual instrument and that same instrument in the mix are definitely two different things.

QuiRobinez · Post by **QuiRobinez** » Wed May 30, 2012 11:24 am

Francois wrote:All three have their places, simply because it's not always the one that sounds better to our ears that will sit best in your mix. So it's always worth trying a Steinway, a Yamaha and a Bösendorfer sound when trying out instruments for your tracks. Sometimes, results are surprising and not at all what you expected when you started. The sound of an individual instrument and that same instrument in the mix are definitely two different things.

+1, definitely!

i didn't like the japanese grand sound, but the darker variations of the german and austrian piano's are the sounds i always liked. It's all about personal preferences.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed May 30, 2012 11:24 am

Yes but since I use it live I don't want to change the sample sets durign a show so I probably say goodbye to the Japanese grand.

Francois · Post by **Francois** » Wed May 30, 2012 11:30 am

Best excuse I could give my wife for buying a second Kronos.

"Sorry Darling, I had to buy another one as I couldn't fit all pianos on just the one".

Ace !

Post by **Sharp** » Wed May 30, 2012 12:01 pm

Francois wrote:Best excuse I could give my wife for buying a second Kronos.

"Sorry Darling, I had to buy another one as I couldn't fit all pianos on just the one".

Ace !

Sounds good to me.
Don’t forget to make the point about how much money you would save too since a two KRONOS cost less than one OASYS.

Sharp.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed May 30, 2012 1:32 pm

Sharp wrote:
Francois wrote:Best excuse I could give my wife for buying a second Kronos.

"Sorry Darling, I had to buy another one as I couldn't fit all pianos on just the one".

Ace !
Sounds good to me.
Don’t forget to make the point about how much money you would save too since a two KRONOS cost less than one OASYS.

Sharp.

Or imagine how much it would cost to buy these 3 piano's in real ... let alone the big room you would need or the regular tuning maintenance they would need.

Darmin De'flern · Post by **Darmin De'flern** » Wed May 30, 2012 1:54 pm

qrobinez wrote:i finally got the Austrian piano yesterday, i loved the sound of the German Grand, but after an evening of using the Austrian piano i must syay i'm very pleased with that new piano sound.

Especially the Dark variations of the Austrian piano's are my favorites. I've programmed a couple of new piano sounds for Ambient music with those sounds and all i can say is: WOW!

The sonic character is quite different then the german one, and they both complement eachother very well. I had to use velocity curve 9 (designed for the piano) to use the full audio range but after that it was a great experience.

I don't know if a lot of people have this EXS-12 expansion, but i will upload an ambient EXS12 piano soundset when i finished the programming.

Do you mind me asking how to change the velocity curve?

QuiRobinez · Post by **QuiRobinez** » Wed May 30, 2012 1:58 pm

Darmin De'flern wrote: Do you mind me asking how to change the velocity curve?

press the global button,
change the value 4 for velocity curve to value 9 at the left top of the screen.

Melodialworks Music · Post by **Melodialworks Music** » Wed May 30, 2012 2:09 pm

qrobinez wrote:
Darmin De'flern wrote: Do you mind me asking how to change the velocity curve?
press the global button,
change the value 4 for velocity curve to value 9 at the left top of the screen.

And don't forget to save, if you want that setting to remain for the future.

Darmin De'flern · Post by **Darmin De'flern** » Wed May 30, 2012 2:22 pm

Melodialworks Music wrote:
qrobinez wrote:
Darmin De'flern wrote: Do you mind me asking how to change the velocity curve?
press the global button,
change the value 4 for velocity curve to value 9 at the left top of the screen.
And don't forget to save, if you want that setting to remain for the future.

If you were to use synths and Pianos in a live situation would it be easy to change from say 9 to 4 depending on what your playing?

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed May 30, 2012 3:01 pm

Darmin De'flern wrote:
Melodialworks Music wrote:
qrobinez wrote: press the global button,
change the value 4 for velocity curve to value 9 at the left top of the screen.
And don't forget to save, if you want that setting to remain for the future.
If you were to use synths and Pianos in a live situation would it be easy to change from say 9 to 4 depending on what your playing?

I dont' think this is possible, it would be nice if this value would not be in the global but in each patch (or could be overridden by each patch), and for combis possibly be changed per timbre.

Comrad_Durandal · Post by **Comrad_Durandal** » Wed May 30, 2012 3:52 pm

Being a new owner, I am not -at all- displeased by the range of instrument voices available from the Kronos out of the box. I can tell a lot of work went into those voices, as well as the instrument itself.

That being said, I can see why extra libraries would cost money - if they are of the same high quality as the ones included on the instrument.

Unlike the console game/zero day DLC argument, the Kronos couldn't house the plethora of voices available out there at launch; less it cost about 15k. At a certain point, you have to release the instrument and let the users who want more be able to download and install more.

The keyboard is more than usable on a professional level as-is with no additional tweaks. The fact that we CAN add to it is a sign of a manufacturer who is thinking ahead - not at the bottom line.

tdwctdwc · Post by **tdwctdwc** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:57 pm

Very nice sound . That thing got character indeed . Been zooming my ears closely to the available demos and i'm quite impressed and most likely will end up buying it .

Thanks for sharing .

R

danmusician · Post by **danmusician** » Wed May 30, 2012 6:35 pm

Comrad_Durandal wrote:Being a new owner, I am not -at all- displeased by the range of instrument voices available from the Kronos out of the box. I can tell a lot of work went into those voices, as well as the instrument itself.

That being said, I can see why extra libraries would cost money - if they are of the same high quality as the ones included on the instrument.

Unlike the console game/zero day DLC argument, the Kronos couldn't house the plethora of voices available out there at launch; less it cost about 15k. At a certain point, you have to release the instrument and let the users who want more be able to download and install more.

The keyboard is more than usable on a professional level as-is with no additional tweaks. The fact that we CAN add to it is a sign of a manufacturer who is thinking ahead - not at the bottom line.

People are looking at this backwards. We purchased the Kronos for a $250 DISCOUNT because it didn't include the Austrian piano. If you don't want/need the Austrian piano, you've saved yourself some money.

Actually, the savings is even more, since if they had included the Austrian piano they would have needed to up the stock ram. Imagine the complaint threads on these boards if they had included the piano without enough ram to use it!

danmusician · Post by **danmusician** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:59 am

Just got the Austrian piano today. Haven't decided how I feel about it. First reaction was a bit negative, but it's growing on me. It is very responsive, to be sure. I love the richness of tone in the bass register.

Funny thing: I was playing in headphones when I first got it. (I usually use monitors.) While I'm playing I keep stopping because I'm hearing a weird noise in the room. I take the headphones off and look around - nothing. I go back to playing. This happens a couple of more times before I realize it's the damper pedal noise!

Needless to say, the damper noise is gone! I've never heard a damper on a real piano make a "woosh" sound like that.

I think with some tweaking I'll be very happy with the Austrian. I've kinda gotten hooked on the German, so I'm interested to see where it will fit in my music.

I'm reminded of when I bought my iPad. At first I couldn't figure out where it fit in my life. I have a MacBook Pro and an iPod Touch. At first, it seemed redundant. Now, it's my go-to device.