Kronos FX

Hexfix93 · Post by **Hexfix93** » Thu May 24, 2012 11:33 pm

How much have korgs on board fx changed since the trinity?

I still have a trinity.

I use the Legacy MDE for all my delays and love it more than any other plugin.

So how do the Kronos FX compare to the oasys and the trinity?

Dany · Post by **Dany** » Thu May 24, 2012 11:43 pm

Hexfix93 wrote:How much have korgs on board fx changed since the trinity?

I still have a trinity.

I use the Legacy MDE for all my delays and love it more than any other plugin.

So how do the Kronos FX compare to the oasys and the trinity?

Kronos has the same effects and effect structure as the OASYS. (Apart from the effects included in the new Kronos Exi's)

quote from SOS:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may11/a ... kronos.htm

"...the effects structure in the Kronos has also reverted to that of the OASYS rather than the Triton‑esque system found in the M3. So, in addition to any dedicated effects within the sound generators themselves, the full complement of 12 assignable, routable, stereo, insert effects slots are available, together with dual Master effects and dual Total effects, plus up to 32 track EQs. Likewise, the full complement of 185 effects algorithms is retained, together with the ability to store up to 32 presets per effect module. While not truly multitimbral (which would require independent effects buses for each Program in a Combi or Sequence setup), this is still very powerful."

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jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Fri May 25, 2012 1:05 am

I'm guessing quite a lot. I have a Triton Pro X and find the effects on my Kronos are better. Plus you can have a lot more of them.

Hexfix93 · Post by **Hexfix93** » Fri May 25, 2012 1:15 am

Anything more specific? Like new fx? Are the verbs less metallic from the trition?

What about the phasers and chorus fx, and flangers??

When i get mine, i guess i need to make a thorough review because I cannot for the life of me find anything that goes in depth.

youtube reviews about this are a complete joke.

Dany · Post by **Dany** » Fri May 25, 2012 1:30 am

The effect quality of the Kronos and OASYS surpasses everything currently available in a hardware synth. The effect quality is superb and comparable to the quality of some top VST plugin effects...

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Fri May 25, 2012 1:50 am

The list of effects is far too vast to mention in a simple post. You're best bet is to download the manual and look at them all. For every effect list on the Kronos you have another page of variations as well that you can access from a drop down menu. As far as I can tell, the effects are stellar!

Hexfix93 · Post by **Hexfix93** » Fri May 25, 2012 5:30 am

can you rout synths into the cx3's pedal fx, like the roland chours, the fuzz and the phaser thingy?

Sina172 · Post by **Sina172** » Fri May 25, 2012 5:36 am

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:10 am

Are you sure Sina? I haven't tried yet but am pretty sure you need to be in combi mode for that?

Also, I upgraded directly from the Triton Extreme to the Kronos and most fx seem to be better so far. Certainly a main problem with the Triton (for me) was the mediocre reverb (by today's standards). The O-Verb in the Kronos is excellent.

Sina172 · Post by **Sina172** » Fri May 25, 2012 7:12 am

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri May 25, 2012 7:34 am

You can not route one EXI into another in Program mode. Well, it gets messy because you can't send the output of just one EXi to another, so you get a bit of a feedback loop where output of both EXis are sent to the input. It is much easier to achieve in Combi mode.

However the CX3 rotary speaker is available as an IFX.

And Sina, AMS has nothing to do with audio routing, it is a system for modulation and control signals

QuiRobinez · Post by **QuiRobinez** » Fri May 25, 2012 7:42 am

X-Trade wrote:You can not route one EXI into another in Program mode. Well, it gets messy because you can't send the output of just one EXi to another, so you get a bit of a feedback loop where output of both EXis are sent to the input. It is much easier to achieve in Combi mode.

However the CX3 rotary speaker is available as an IFX.

And Sina, AMS has nothing to do with audio routing, it is a system for modulation and control signals

i agree, ams can't be used for audio routing, however it's possible to route the audio signals in a program when you use the MFX system.

i do this with a couple of patches where i route the output of the Electric piano through the filters of the MS20. This is done in program mode by sending the electric piano through the MFX1 and in the MS20 audio input was routed to the MFX1 ouput. In the MS20 you set the volume of the both OSC's to 0 and then you get the Electric Piano sound through the filter section of the MS20.

Works fine, but is difficult to setup.

So if sina has a smarther way to do this then i'm very interested in how this is done. It can't be done with AMS however.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri May 25, 2012 7:45 am

qrobinez wrote:
X-Trade wrote:You can not route one EXI into another in Program mode. Well, it gets messy because you can't send the output of just one EXi to another, so you get a bit of a feedback loop where output of both EXis are sent to the input. It is much easier to achieve in Combi mode.

However the CX3 rotary speaker is available as an IFX.

And Sina, AMS has nothing to do with audio routing, it is a system for modulation and control signals
i agree, ams can't be used for audio routing, however it's possible to route the audio signals in a program when you use the MFX system.

i do this with a couple of patches where i route the output of the Electric piano through the filters of the MS20. This is done in program mode by sending the electric piano through the MFX1 and in the MS20 audio input was routed to the MFX1 ouput. In the MS20 you set the volume of the both OSC's to 0 and then you get the Electric Piano sound through the filter section of the MS20.

Works fine, but is difficult to setup.

So if sina has a smarther way to do this then i'm very interested in how this is done. It can't be done with AMS however.

Thanks. I had forgotten about that workaround. It is still very messy though. But at least it can be done.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Fri May 25, 2012 8:45 am

Probably wouldn't work with EP1 then unless you can also set the oscillator level to 0? In combi mode you could just set it to a different midi channel.

Also, Sina, careful, before you ruin the illusion.

QuiRobinez · Post by **QuiRobinez** » Fri May 25, 2012 9:12 am

SanderXpander wrote:Probably wouldn't work with EP1 then unless you can also set the oscillator level to 0? In combi mode you could just set it to a different midi channel.

Also, Sina, careful, before you ruin the illusion.

agree, i also think that routing an external signal through the EP1 doesn't work, although i never tried that.

I know for a fact that you can route an EXI through the MS20, Mod7 and the STR1 module, because i tried those.

You can do some need tricks with that, for instance routing the drumtrack through the MS20 filters, or route a PCM Bell sample used in Mod-7 through the Comb filter of the STR-1. Very experimental sounds you can get this way.

It's not that hard to achieve when you know the trick, although it's hard to learn. But with the MFX trick you could easely route the MFX1 to the AUDIO input of the EXI of choice and that's basicly it..

some connection tips:
For the MS20 you can route the connection on the patch panel, just connect the audio in (bottom area of the panel) to an input port of the panel like the signal in, and route that signal out to the LPF input.

For the Mod7 you can just connect the ouput from the audio in connector to one of the inputs (with the name out) on the right site of of your patch panel.

For the STR1 go to the String - Pickup / feedback tab en raise the feedback level to hear the audio in signal through the STR1.

Actually, when you are into ambient sounds, in my opinion the STR-1 give the most possibilities to create interesting modifications on your audio input signal.

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