MIDI in Combi Mode: Channel 1 is always active

Orri · Post by **Orri** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:25 pm

Hi,

I'm wondering if i am missing something: Let's say I have eight active parts in a combi which use channel 1-8. When I change the MIDI channel in Global mode to 2, the keybaord plays channel 2's part, but channel 1 is still played also. No matter what channel I go to in Global Mode, channel 1 is always active. Is there anythinng I can do to change this?

Thanks
Orri

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:34 pm

My intuition would say channel should not be played. Are you sure this happens?

Orri · Post by **Orri** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:36 pm

Yes, my intuition said this as well

However, I can hear this effect right here and now...

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:37 pm

Are you sure Karma is disabled ?

Orri · Post by **Orri** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:40 pm

Yes, it is

HardSync · Post by **HardSync** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:56 pm

Is this a preset Combi or one of your own creations (meaning, completely from scratch)?

If it is a preset, KARMA may still be affecting it, even though it's turned off.

ParadoxMachine · Post by **ParadoxMachine** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:57 pm

I think channel 1 is assigned to the global midi channel by default, and not to midi channel 1. This mean that, whatever you set the global midi channel to be, channel 1 of your combi will always sound. You should check if the first channel is assigned to gch, and if so, set it to midi channel 1.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:58 pm

Did you try a predefined combi (like I-A000 Era of Kronos) and set the global channel to 2?

I'm at work now so I cannot check it.

Orri · Post by **Orri** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:59 pm

Actually, I have already set the global channel to 2; still, channel 1 is the one which is played constantly.

ParadoxMachine · Post by **ParadoxMachine** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:01 pm

Orri wrote:Actually, I have already set the global channel to 2; still, channel 1 is the one which is played constantly.

Yes, I understood that, but if the first channel of your combi is assigned to gch instead of 1, it will sound nontheless. Setting the midi channel of a combi track to gch will asign it to whatever the global midi channel is, so if the first track is assigned to gch, and the second track is assigned to 2, you will hear both if your global midi channel is 2.

ParadoxMachine · Post by **ParadoxMachine** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:06 pm

As you can read on page 447 of the parameter guide:

Gch: The timbre will use the channel that has been selected as the global MIDI channel (Global 1-1a).

Orri · Post by **Orri** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:11 pm

Yes, I misunderstood at first, sorry. However, no part in my combi is asigned to ghc, but all of them are assigned to a specific channel.

I tried I A-000 inbetween: When stepping through the global MIDI channels, parts 1 and 2 alwyas play. That's ok, since they are set to gch. I f I change this to ch1, they remind silent as I move to another global channel. That's what I would expect my own combis to do also. However, there is sometinhg in my combis that's wrong, so maybe I should rebuild these using somethin like I A-000 as a starting point. Only a hunderd combis I've done so far...

Thanks for your replies, helped me alot to get on track for a solution.

Orri · Post by **Orri** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:17 pm

... Instead of taking I A-0000 as a starting point, why not sarting with an Init Combi? But if I do so, there it is again: No channel assigned to "gch", but as I go through the channels in global mode, channel one constantly plays...

What is different then in "Era of KRONOS"?

HardSync · Post by **HardSync** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:21 pm

Orri,

If you haven't already, have a look at the GE Setup/Key Zones screen P7-1 and check to see if any of the Timbre Thru boxes are checked -- these are at the lower right of the screen. If any are checked, then uncheck them. I don't want to waste your time with a long explanation for now... but will explain later if this fixes it.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:23 pm

Orri wrote:... Instead of taking I A-0000 as a starting point, why not sarting with an Init Combi? But if I do so, there it is again: No channel assigned to "gch", but as I go through the channels in global mode, channel one constantly plays...

What is different then in "Era of KRONOS"?

Nothing is different, well shouldn't be, but maybe it is an unintended change.

I used in the past a lot of Korg synths as slave and then the combis would not sound too so I really am interested what the problem is.