Connecting my kaossilator to electribe EMX ?

ratata · Post by **ratata** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:54 pm

I want to connect my kaossilator to the audio in on my Electribe EMX.

The problem I'm facing is that the kaossilator output is stereo, while the input on the electribe is mono.

I've tried connecting the left RCA from the kaossilator, and the head set output, to the audio in port on my electribe.

My problem is that only one channel is playing, so all the sounds from my kaossilator sounds choppy and bad.

Do I need to get a stereo to mono converter of some sort, or is there a way to combine both channels of the kaossilator into a mono signal without buying more equipment?

Thanks!

Pastor-of-Muppets · Post by **Pastor-of-Muppets** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:40 pm

you want something like this:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/1-4-mono-plug-t ... aptor-1272

that's combine the two channels into one

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:46 pm

Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:you want something like this:

that's combine the two channels into one

If that's a typical Y adapter, then it's a very bad idea to use it to combine the L+R outputs together, because it will short them together, causing phase cancellation or worse, burn out the outputs.

To convert a stereo output to mono properly requires a summing amp. But this will lose all the stereo effects of the Kaossilator.

It's far better to get a mini mixer and plug the outputs of the EMX and Kaossilator into it, which will maintain the full stereo sound of both.

Pastor-of-Muppets · Post by **Pastor-of-Muppets** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:47 pm

yikes, ok - don't use one of them then!

in fact I think you said that in reply to another post of mine recently - I should try and remember it

mijome07 · Post by **mijome07** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:06 pm

Use the headphone out. Get a 3.5mm TRS - 1/4" TS cable.

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:31 pm

mijome07 wrote:Use the headphone out. Get a 3.5mm TRS - 1/4" TS cable.

No cable is a good solution to this problem. You'll either get only one channel, or short the two outputs together. It's better to mix the stereo outputs together with a minimixer.

mijome07 · Post by **mijome07** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:16 am

Years back I had a couple of mkII models. I used to run a cd player through one of the filters using a 1/4" y cable and a dual 1/4" to rca cable. No problem(s) whatsoever.

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:09 am

mijome07 wrote:Years back I had a couple of mkII models. I used to run a cd player through one of the filters using a 1/4" y cable and a dual 1/4" to rca cable. No problem(s) whatsoever.

That's because you can usually lose one channel of music without much of a problem. The Kaosillator has many programs that do panning, L-C-R ping pong delays, and other stereo effects that will sound completely off when one channel is cut out. And the fact that you didn't burn out the outputs by shorting them together doesn't mean it doesn't happen, only that you were lucky that it didn't.

mijome07 · Post by **mijome07** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:29 am

A lot of people do it/ have done it with different gear. I guess we're all lucky.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:31 pm

xmlguy wrote:
mijome07 wrote:Years back I had a couple of mkII models. I used to run a cd player through one of the filters using a 1/4" y cable and a dual 1/4" to rca cable. No problem(s) whatsoever.
That's because you can usually lose one channel of music without much of a problem. The Kaosillator has many programs that do panning, L-C-R ping pong delays, and other stereo effects that will sound completely off when one channel is cut out. And the fact that you didn't burn out the outputs by shorting them together doesn't mean it doesn't happen, only that you were lucky that it didn't.

Plus some of the MkII models have stereo inputs. I know my ES-1 mkII does.

Pastor-of-Muppets · Post by **Pastor-of-Muppets** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:25 pm

according to the manual the ES1mkI has a ST./MONO jack too

the EA1 and ER1 don't, but their manuals actually suggest using an adapter:

EA1 wrote: Connect an audio device etc. to the audio input of the
EA-1. The input jack is monaural, so you may need to
use a stereo-mono adapter plug, depending on the device
you are connecting.

ER1mkII wrote: Connect an audio device etc. to the audio inputs of the ER-1mkII. Each jack is monaural,
so you may need to use a stereo-mono adapter plug,
depending on the device you are connecting.

4dnightmare · Post by **4dnightmare** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:52 pm

I have a cord that adapts from the two rca inputs to one 1/4 input. I used this and plugged into the EMX and it worked, but I wasn't getting a lot of sound or effects from the Kaossilator - pretty minimal. I'm probably not doing it right and I'm not too worried about it, as I have a mixer with RCA inputs and can just plug them in separately. I was just curious to see what would happen with the Kaossilator going straight into the Electribe.

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:58 pm

X-Trade wrote:
xmlguy wrote:
mijome07 wrote:Years back I had a couple of mkII models. I used to run a cd player through one of the filters using a 1/4" y cable and a dual 1/4" to rca cable. No problem(s) whatsoever.
That's because you can usually lose one channel of music without much of a problem. The Kaosillator has many programs that do panning, L-C-R ping pong delays, and other stereo effects that will sound completely off when one channel is cut out. And the fact that you didn't burn out the outputs by shorting them together doesn't mean it doesn't happen, only that you were lucky that it didn't.
Plus some of the MkII models have stereo inputs. I know my ES-1 mkII does.

Alas, the OP was asking about the EMX, which doesn't.

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:00 pm

4dnightmare wrote:I have a cord that adapts from the two rca inputs to one 1/4 input. I used this and plugged into the EMX and it worked, but I wasn't getting a lot of sound or effects from the Kaossilator - pretty minimal. I'm probably not doing it right and I'm not too worried about it, as I have a mixer with RCA inputs and can just plug them in separately. I was just curious to see what would happen with the Kaossilator going straight into the Electribe.

That's because that adapter was probably shorting the outputs of the Kaossilator together, which can screw up the sound as I previously wrote.

LamptonWorm · Post by **LamptonWorm** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:26 pm

Wow, I've done some crazy adapter chaining before and I've not heard of the Y overload stuff, you got me curious!

Couple of related posts after a quick google -

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28610

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 426AAbdj8J

I need to put an arrow on my Y's now to remind me what is for split only and not for join

Cheers,
LW.