What you do like and dislike about the M50?

[holdsg]

Thanks Mr. Cali will check that out!

[mocando]

can't play chords on most leads (probably a way to fix this, but I don't know how).

The leads are monophonic for a reason, of course (emulating the classic monophonic lead synths of the vintage era), but it is indeed easy to change this setting. In Program mode, go to page select, P1: Basic, and change "Voice Assign Mode" from Mono to Poly. Chord heaven!

Or in Combi mode, select Timbre Params, OSC and set the track as poly. No need to change the program. You can even add portamento that way, if needed.

[Gargamel314]

i like the joystick too.

most of the people in our church think of it as a sort of a video game controller.
then they proceed to ask whether the M50 has autopilot functions....

you can tell them it's got phasers and a decimator.

surprised only one person mentioned the programmable arpeggiators. That's one of the biggest gripes about the M3... a lot of people rely on it

[kimu]

like

- synth sounds (lead, pad, motion, fx)
- new piano (with respect to Trinity and Triton ones)
- some string (even i prefer the Trinity strings)
- efx
- touchscreen
- lightness
- drum tracks


dislike

- user interface for programming: overwhelming, the very same complexity could be managed better (take a look to V-synth user interface...)
- chord trigger (totally un-useful buttons)
- brass and other acoustic sound, simply ridicolous (and i deleted them to load more M3 synth and string sounds)
- sounds do not last when changing program
- combi uses pointers to program instead of duplicating parameters as in Virus
- sd card, i would prefer USB stick
- still no embedded mp3, wave player from USB
- too less knobs

[dekturrr]

[quote="kimu"]like


- brass and other acoustic sound, simply ridicolous (and i deleted them to load more M3 synth and string sounds)

did you load it from M3 expanded or from the M3 Producer's preset data?
because as far as i know, only 4 programs of the M3 Producer's preset data are not in the M50.

so practically all the presets in M3 are into the M50

[newtonlkh]

to me it's not easy enough to set splits
although it is more powerful than splits, a simple split function would be very, very useful

newton

[mocando]

to me it's not easy enough to set splits
although it is more powerful than splits, a simple split function would be very, very useful

newton

The way I see it, you are wishing for an arranger kind of feature. I think that workstations differ from arrangers in the fact that the later are designed for live performance and fast changes on the fly, that's why they have features like splits or transpose buttons.
Workstations, on the other hand, (at least KORG workstations) the basic performance environment is the combi, which is like a scene, with all sounds, splits, transposing, etc all set up from the start. If you need the same setup, but maybe change one of the sounds you simply copy the combi to the next slot and switch the combi up while performing.

[kikedeolivos]

to me it's not easy enough to set splits
although it is more powerful than splits, a simple split function would be very, very useful

newton

The way I see it, you are wishing for an arranger kind of feature. I think that workstations differ from arrangers in the fact that the later are designed for live performance and fast changes on the fly, that's why they have features like splits or transpose buttons.
Workstations, on the other hand, (at least KORG workstations) the basic performance environment is the combi, which is like a scene, with all sounds, splits, transposing, etc all set up from the start. If you need the same setup, but maybe change one of the sounds you simply copy the combi to the next slot and switch the combi up while performing.

The Alesis QS61, which is a synth, not a workstation, has a dedicated transpose button. But I agree that on the M50, transposing is just 2 button presses away, very simple.

[mtps]

like
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It turns on quickly!
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[kimu]

like


- brass and other acoustic sound, simply ridicolous (and i deleted them to load more M3 synth and string sounds)

did you load it from M3 expanded or from the M3 Producer's preset data?
because as far as i know, only 4 programs of the M3 Producer's preset data are not in the M50.

so practically all the presets in M3 are into the M50

mmmm i have done a comparison table of M3 Xpanded sounds vs M50 preset sounds for synth and i had found many many programs not included in M50 preset.

here i past them (the not included ones i means):

LEAD SYNTH
Hard Squeezee LeadSynth Hard
High Pass Synth Solo LeadSynth Hard
Cutting Rez Lead LeadSynth Hard
PortoPulse Lead LeadSynth Hard
80's Analead LeadSynth Hard
Envo-Rez Lead LeadSynth Hard
Surfin PWM Lead LeadSynth Hard
Screaming Mini LeadSynth Hard
Bright Mini LeadSynth Hard
Vintage Odd-A-See LeadSynth Hard
Vintage Progressive Lead LeadSynth Hard
Synth Horn LeadSynth Hard
Crossover Lead LeadSynth Hard
SIBERIA LeadSynth Hard
Vintage Lead 1 LeadSynth Hard
Vintage Lead 2 LeadSynth Hard
Wired Touch Lead LeadSynth Hard
Unison Sync Lead LeadSynth Hard
Sync'd Lead LeadSynth Hard
Ryde'n Lead LeadSynth Hard
Square Mini LeadSynth Hard
Dyna PULSE LeadSynth Hard
Classic Analog Lead LeadSynth Hard
Unlucky Woman LeadSynth Hard
Lucky Lead LeadSynth Hard
Unison 5th Saw LeadSynth Hard
5th Saw Lead LeadSynth Hard
Syn.Harmonica SW1 Phaser LeadSynth Hard
Espress Lead LeadSynth Soft
Singing Lead LeadSynth Soft
Lead Ting LeadSynth Soft
Pro Synth Lead LeadSynth Soft
Round Poppy Lead LeadSynth Soft
Leading Sines LeadSynth Soft
Vox Lead SW1 LeadSynth Soft
Syn Pipes LeadSynth Soft
Vintage Sine Lead LeadSynth Soft
4am Lead Synth LeadSynth Soft
Swirling Lead LeadSynth Soft
Sweep Detune Lead LeadSynth Soft
Squelchy Lead LeadSynth Soft
Rap Squeezee 1 LeadSynth Soft
Rap Squeezee 2 LeadSynth Soft
MG SawLead LeadSynth Soft
PMGR Lead LeadSynth Soft
Deep Soul Lead LeadSynth Soft
Vintage Lead Mild Square LeadSynth Soft
Laied Maze LeadSynth Soft
Maze Square Lead LeadSynth Soft
Soft Unison Lead LeadSynth Soft
Tundra LeadSynth Soft
Aurora LeadSynth Soft
Tekno Pop Lead LeadSynth Soft
Octave Sines LeadSynth Soft
Phaze Radiator LeadSynth Soft
Tubular Lead LeadSynth Soft
Syn Clarinet LeadSynth Soft
Syn PanFlute Lead LeadSynth Soft
Whispering Sines LeadSynth Soft

FAST SYNTH

Electro Stab FastSynth Short Release
Turnback Poly Comp FastSynth Short Release
Filtered Syn Brass FastSynth Short Release
Saw Synth Brass FastSynth Short Release
Phase Synth Brass FastSynth Short Release
Solid Syn BRASS FastSynth Short Release
Jedd Clamp-it FastSynth Short Release
High Pass Synth Brass 1 FastSynth Short Release
High Pass Synth Brass 2 FastSynth Short Release
Master Synth Brass FastSynth Short Release
Solid Analog FastSynth Short Release
Synth 1984 FastSynth Short Release
Harpsibrass FastSynth Short Release
Analog Soft Brass FastSynth Short Release
Muffler FastSynth Short Release
Poly Six in the City FastSynth Short Release
Smooth Touch FastSynth Short Release
Retro Analog Comp FastSynth Short Release
Polytti Comp FastSynth Short Release
Vocoder VC-10 FastSynth Short Release
Powerful Euphoria FastSynth Long Release
Attacking Synth FastSynth Long Release
Power Synth FastSynth Long Release
Cosmic Furnace FastSynth Long Release
Perky Vox Synth FastSynth Long Release
Pop Synth Pad FastSynth Long Release
Fresh Air FastSynth Long Release
Happy Air Synth FastSynth Long Release
Soft Rezz Synth FastSynth Long Release
Separate Ways FastSynth Long Release
80's Synth Brass Pad FastSynth Long Release
Analog Ensemble FastSynth Long Release
Danger Web FastSynth Long Release
Sky Diamond FastSynth Long Release
Dream Wave 1 FastSynth Long Release
Dream Wave 2 FastSynth Long Release
It's Play w/ Delay Day! FastSynth Long Release
Trancy Pizz Shot FastSynth Long Release
Soft Synth FastSynth Long Release
Noise Pad FastSynth Long Release
Long Crystal FastSynth Long Release

SLOW SYNTH

Modern Sol Strings SlowSynth Bright
Ethereal Pad SlowSynth Bright
Hybrid Synth Orch Brass SlowSynth Bright
Brass Choir Pad SlowSynth Bright
Liquid Squares SlowSynth Bright
Ghost Organ SlowSynth Bright
Wet Somber Lead & Pad SlowSynth Bright
Synth Brass Pad SlowSynth Dark
Slow Sine Pad SlowSynth Dark
Cloud City SlowSynth Dark
Deepest Vox Pad SlowSynth Dark
The 5th Vector SlowSynth Dark
Beautiful Longings SlowSynth Dark
Ripplator SlowSynth Dark
The Northwest Passage SlowSynth Dark
Gentle Syn Strings SlowSynth Dark
Warm & Slow Pad SlowSynth Dark
Silent Pad SlowSynth Dark
Envelope Pad SlowSynth Dark
Sea Ice Pad SlowSynth Dark
Dark Phaser Pad SlowSynth Dark
Voxy Pad SlowSynth Dark
Dark Smoothie Pad SlowSynth Dark
{(Meditate}) SlowSynth Sweep
Splash From The Past SlowSynth Sweep
Freedom Pad SlowSynth Sweep
Simple Rez Sweep Pad SlowSynth Sweep
Notchstradamus SlowSynth Sweep
High Octane HPF Sweep SlowSynth Sweep
Cross Sweeper SlowSynth Sweep
Debussian Pad SlowSynth Sweep
Pad-O-Rama SlowSynth Sweep
Ghost Motions (hold) SlowSynth Sweep
Sweep Orchestra Pad SlowSynth Sweep
Oddy-say Pad SlowSynth Sweep
BPF Sweep Pad SlowSynth Sweep
Formant Pad SlowSynth Sweep

MOTION SYNTH

Twinkle Pad MotionSynth Motion
Motion Pad 1 MotionSynth Motion
Motion Pad 2 MotionSynth Motion
Kalaidscope MotionSynth Motion
Fluty Breath Pad MotionSynth Motion
Apollo Pad MotionSynth Motion
Time Lag Piano MotionSynth Motion
Manual Lore MotionSynth Motion
BPM Gating Voice Pad MotionSynth Rhythmic
Whispering MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Flashlight Pad MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Ribbon Gatepad MotionSynth Rhythmic
Sea Creature MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Pulse MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Orbit Blip MotionSynth Rhythmic
Ready for Liftoff MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Ribbon Trance MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Metallic Water MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Dense Motionations MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Machine Jam MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Telephone Jam MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM QuantizedFilterPlay MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Step Slowly MotionSynth Rhythmic
eMoTiOn MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Not a Care..... MotionSynth Rhythmic
Sahara MotionSynth Rhythmic
The Golden Mile MotionSynth Rhythmic

[dekturrr]

like


- brass and other acoustic sound, simply ridicolous (and i deleted them to load more M3 synth and string sounds)

did you load it from M3 expanded or from the M3 Producer's preset data?
because as far as i know, only 4 programs of the M3 Producer's preset data are not in the M50.

so practically all the presets in M3 are into the M50

mmmm i have done a comparison table of M3 Xpanded sounds vs M50 preset sounds for synth and i had found many many programs not included in M50 preset.

here i past them (the not included ones i means):

LEAD SYNTH
Hard Squeezee LeadSynth Hard
High Pass Synth Solo LeadSynth Hard
Cutting Rez Lead LeadSynth Hard
PortoPulse Lead LeadSynth Hard
80's Analead LeadSynth Hard
Envo-Rez Lead LeadSynth Hard
Surfin PWM Lead LeadSynth Hard
Screaming Mini LeadSynth Hard
Bright Mini LeadSynth Hard
Vintage Odd-A-See LeadSynth Hard
Vintage Progressive Lead LeadSynth Hard
Synth Horn LeadSynth Hard
Crossover Lead LeadSynth Hard
SIBERIA LeadSynth Hard
Vintage Lead 1 LeadSynth Hard
Vintage Lead 2 LeadSynth Hard
Wired Touch Lead LeadSynth Hard
Unison Sync Lead LeadSynth Hard
Sync'd Lead LeadSynth Hard
Ryde'n Lead LeadSynth Hard
Square Mini LeadSynth Hard
Dyna PULSE LeadSynth Hard
Classic Analog Lead LeadSynth Hard
Unlucky Woman LeadSynth Hard
Lucky Lead LeadSynth Hard
Unison 5th Saw LeadSynth Hard
5th Saw Lead LeadSynth Hard
Syn.Harmonica SW1 Phaser LeadSynth Hard
Espress Lead LeadSynth Soft
Singing Lead LeadSynth Soft
Lead Ting LeadSynth Soft
Pro Synth Lead LeadSynth Soft
Round Poppy Lead LeadSynth Soft
Leading Sines LeadSynth Soft
Vox Lead SW1 LeadSynth Soft
Syn Pipes LeadSynth Soft
Vintage Sine Lead LeadSynth Soft
4am Lead Synth LeadSynth Soft
Swirling Lead LeadSynth Soft
Sweep Detune Lead LeadSynth Soft
Squelchy Lead LeadSynth Soft
Rap Squeezee 1 LeadSynth Soft
Rap Squeezee 2 LeadSynth Soft
MG SawLead LeadSynth Soft
PMGR Lead LeadSynth Soft
Deep Soul Lead LeadSynth Soft
Vintage Lead Mild Square LeadSynth Soft
Laied Maze LeadSynth Soft
Maze Square Lead LeadSynth Soft
Soft Unison Lead LeadSynth Soft
Tundra LeadSynth Soft
Aurora LeadSynth Soft
Tekno Pop Lead LeadSynth Soft
Octave Sines LeadSynth Soft
Phaze Radiator LeadSynth Soft
Tubular Lead LeadSynth Soft
Syn Clarinet LeadSynth Soft
Syn PanFlute Lead LeadSynth Soft
Whispering Sines LeadSynth Soft

FAST SYNTH

Electro Stab FastSynth Short Release
Turnback Poly Comp FastSynth Short Release
Filtered Syn Brass FastSynth Short Release
Saw Synth Brass FastSynth Short Release
Phase Synth Brass FastSynth Short Release
Solid Syn BRASS FastSynth Short Release
Jedd Clamp-it FastSynth Short Release
High Pass Synth Brass 1 FastSynth Short Release
High Pass Synth Brass 2 FastSynth Short Release
Master Synth Brass FastSynth Short Release
Solid Analog FastSynth Short Release
Synth 1984 FastSynth Short Release
Harpsibrass FastSynth Short Release
Analog Soft Brass FastSynth Short Release
Muffler FastSynth Short Release
Poly Six in the City FastSynth Short Release
Smooth Touch FastSynth Short Release
Retro Analog Comp FastSynth Short Release
Polytti Comp FastSynth Short Release
Vocoder VC-10 FastSynth Short Release
Powerful Euphoria FastSynth Long Release
Attacking Synth FastSynth Long Release
Power Synth FastSynth Long Release
Cosmic Furnace FastSynth Long Release
Perky Vox Synth FastSynth Long Release
Pop Synth Pad FastSynth Long Release
Fresh Air FastSynth Long Release
Happy Air Synth FastSynth Long Release
Soft Rezz Synth FastSynth Long Release
Separate Ways FastSynth Long Release
80's Synth Brass Pad FastSynth Long Release
Analog Ensemble FastSynth Long Release
Danger Web FastSynth Long Release
Sky Diamond FastSynth Long Release
Dream Wave 1 FastSynth Long Release
Dream Wave 2 FastSynth Long Release
It's Play w/ Delay Day! FastSynth Long Release
Trancy Pizz Shot FastSynth Long Release
Soft Synth FastSynth Long Release
Noise Pad FastSynth Long Release
Long Crystal FastSynth Long Release

SLOW SYNTH

Modern Sol Strings SlowSynth Bright
Ethereal Pad SlowSynth Bright
Hybrid Synth Orch Brass SlowSynth Bright
Brass Choir Pad SlowSynth Bright
Liquid Squares SlowSynth Bright
Ghost Organ SlowSynth Bright
Wet Somber Lead & Pad SlowSynth Bright
Synth Brass Pad SlowSynth Dark
Slow Sine Pad SlowSynth Dark
Cloud City SlowSynth Dark
Deepest Vox Pad SlowSynth Dark
The 5th Vector SlowSynth Dark
Beautiful Longings SlowSynth Dark
Ripplator SlowSynth Dark
The Northwest Passage SlowSynth Dark
Gentle Syn Strings SlowSynth Dark
Warm & Slow Pad SlowSynth Dark
Silent Pad SlowSynth Dark
Envelope Pad SlowSynth Dark
Sea Ice Pad SlowSynth Dark
Dark Phaser Pad SlowSynth Dark
Voxy Pad SlowSynth Dark
Dark Smoothie Pad SlowSynth Dark
{(Meditate}) SlowSynth Sweep
Splash From The Past SlowSynth Sweep
Freedom Pad SlowSynth Sweep
Simple Rez Sweep Pad SlowSynth Sweep
Notchstradamus SlowSynth Sweep
High Octane HPF Sweep SlowSynth Sweep
Cross Sweeper SlowSynth Sweep
Debussian Pad SlowSynth Sweep
Pad-O-Rama SlowSynth Sweep
Ghost Motions (hold) SlowSynth Sweep
Sweep Orchestra Pad SlowSynth Sweep
Oddy-say Pad SlowSynth Sweep
BPF Sweep Pad SlowSynth Sweep
Formant Pad SlowSynth Sweep

MOTION SYNTH

Twinkle Pad MotionSynth Motion
Motion Pad 1 MotionSynth Motion
Motion Pad 2 MotionSynth Motion
Kalaidscope MotionSynth Motion
Fluty Breath Pad MotionSynth Motion
Apollo Pad MotionSynth Motion
Time Lag Piano MotionSynth Motion
Manual Lore MotionSynth Motion
BPM Gating Voice Pad MotionSynth Rhythmic
Whispering MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Flashlight Pad MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Ribbon Gatepad MotionSynth Rhythmic
Sea Creature MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Pulse MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Orbit Blip MotionSynth Rhythmic
Ready for Liftoff MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Ribbon Trance MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Metallic Water MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Dense Motionations MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Machine Jam MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Telephone Jam MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM QuantizedFilterPlay MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Step Slowly MotionSynth Rhythmic
eMoTiOn MotionSynth Rhythmic
BPM Not a Care..... MotionSynth Rhythmic
Sahara MotionSynth Rhythmic
The Golden Mile MotionSynth Rhythmic

may i know where did you download the m3 expanded? because i only have the M3 Producer Preset. (which is practically the same programs)
thanks

[kimu]

from M3 site plus 3-4 soundsets that have been posted here on the forum.
anyway, leave me a mail address and i can send you the .PGC

[holdsg]

can't play chords on most leads (probably a way to fix this, but I don't know how).

The leads are monophonic for a reason, of course (emulating the classic monophonic lead synths of the vintage era), but it is indeed easy to change this setting. In Program mode, go to page select, P1: Basic, and change "Voice Assign Mode" from Mono to Poly. Chord heaven!

Or in Combi mode, select Timbre Params, OSC and set the track as poly. No need to change the program. You can even add portamento that way, if needed.

That was indeed the solution I chose, and I am very happy with the results, Gracias amigo.

[dekturrr]

from M3 site plus 3-4 soundsets that have been posted here on the forum.
anyway, leave me a mail address and i can send you the .PGC

thanks kimu. much appreciated

[andersborg]

I find the weight and size of the 61 key model to be a big plus. The keybed is good too, except maybe the black keys, that are a bit stiffer than the white ones (no racist/sexist puns intended). I definitely prefer fast synth action before GHA.

Sounds are good too, for the most part. I have trouble with the distortion on certain sounds when doing broad slides upwards. This seems to mainly be a problem on simple sounds like saw, square etc. Because there's only one sample, that gets stretched too thin? The same on the M3?

What I like less is the complexity of programming, despite the GUI. Especially AMS makes my head spin. It's darn flexible though, if you have the time and interest.

I would have liked all sounds to be polyphonic, even lead synth sounds. I know I can change it, but many of these sounds work perfectly polyphonically, so why this preset limitation? It's about useful sounds, not 100% emulation.

It should be possible to record sound digitally via USB. Even my cheapish guitar controller has this, and it wouldn't have added to the production cost.