I want to buy EMX1SD but a question ?

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I want to buy EMX1SD but a question ?

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Hi all,
I am very new on this forum and this is my first message , i look around the forum and get more information about EMX1. But still cannot find anywhere about my question.. here it is;

1- I am making my music on Cubase 5 and on my gigs i want to play my

exported mp3/wav tracks on EMX1SD . is it possible ? i dont want to carry

my notebook with me

Thank you :)
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No.
The EMX is not an mp3 player, it is a synthesizer.

On the ESX you can load wave files and play them as part of your sequence/sounds, but that is still different to what you are asking - it is called sampling, where you play back sounds as instruments or such. I don't think a full song would fit into the sampling memory of the ESX. Even if it did, you could only fit one song in and it would take a while to load a new song sample to memory.

On the ESX you may be able to sample sections of songs and loop them and cut them up, and use them as parts of your music.
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Thank you very much ,

Ok then , let me ask other question .

Ok think, on my gigs my laptop connect to ESX1SD audio input and i opened a full wav tracklist on Soundforge on my laptop.
While my sets playing on Audio inputs of EMX1SD can i write a real time patterns on my EMX without loosing sync ? how can it be ? midiclock ?
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I'm sorry, I don't really understand what you're getting at. I don't think you can sync the EMX to incoming audio without knowing the tempo, and having that audio aligned to something for example as a track in a DAW that supports MIDI clock.

as regards to 'making' patterns whilst playing, you can hit the record button and tap things out whilst it is playing back.
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Post by McHale »

the EMX *DOES* sync to incoming audio using auto BPM scan.

I think. :)

I haven't uses that functionality yet. I've only had this thing a few days but I read that it does it.

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Post by flight303 »

If it does ..Now i am asking ;

On live performance , i connect my laptop audio out to my EMX1SD audio in.

On my laptop i open soundforge or wavelab and open a 1,5 hours of my live set in wav or mp3 format.

1- Can i sync the audio tempo coming from Soundforge with my EMX1SD ?

2- Can i make live patterns ( like drums,bass,fx ) on my EMX1SD on the
going Soundforge track ?

If it does i really buy this machine.
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Post by McHale »

I'll be home in a few hours and I'll test it for you. Like I said, I'm far from being an expert on this thing but here's what the manual states regarding the 'AUTO BPM SCAN' button:

"If this key is on, the tempo will be detected from the music connected to the audio in jack."

Sounds pretty convincing to me.
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Post by harvestein »

I have used the tempo match feature extensively and I can tell you that it does not work the way you want it to.
It does detect a very approximate BPM that will drift out within a few seconds, also it does not correct the sync of the beats, so even if it does scan a correct tempo, it will just change the speed, it wont re-align the beats together. It also keeps revising this tempo, so a breakdown will mess up the measurement. tempo scan is ok for a starting point.

It can be done but it is very tricky, what I did was use the tempo scan to get approximate tempo, then use the |< button to align the beats back up at the start of the bar, then use the shift button to change tempo in increments of 0.1 BPM to adjust. It takes practice.
If you were using ableton or a similar program to play your set back it would have the beats timed perfectly to a clocked BPM, and you could just set the tempos the same, or use midi to match them.
Mixing a tribe into live music without MIDI clock where you dont know the tempo of the music is time consuming and unreliable. The BPM scan only makes this slightly easier. Once you do finally get the tempos correct its not too bad, but you need to get used to using the |< button to compensate for drift after a every 16/32 bars or so. One mis-timed hit of that button and you have yourself a train wreck.

regarding your second question, you can mix the audio of your tribe with soundforges audio, drums bass. i think you may be able to re-record a pattern that will include the audio from both machines into a slice part. I think you will be too pre-occupied trying to keep the box in time to really get into it though.

My advice to you is that you need to use MIDI when using more than one machine, unless you know the exact tempos of the audio that your using in soundforge, even then it will require you to press play at exactly the right moment to be in sync. MIDI stops you having to concern yourself with all that timing issues.
If you are using Turntables, make sure your first mix is from the tribe, into a record, its far easier than trying to sync your tribe into the mix.
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