INTERNAL SD CARD?!

jkomp316 · Post by **jkomp316** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:28 am

I've heard the M3 has a 256MB internal SD card used for OS files. Ive also heard the current OS uses about 185MB of that card. The only reason I have a USB WART hanging off the back of my M3 is for saving sequences. These take up marginal space. Could future updates incorporate a small USER area on the internal card for saving sequence data? Even just a single 128 bank internal *.sng file would be awesome...

McHale · Post by **McHale** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:26 pm

not gonna happen. The internal SD card is for OS and Korg provided expansions only. As far as I know, they have no plans to allow users read/write access to that card - which is a good thing.

Can you imagine the support calls they would get if you could freely save to it and you "accidentally" deleted a bunch of files you THOUGHT you could delete but turned out they were system files.

NO way would they put themselves in THAT position. I certainly wouldn't.

One enterprising person put a USB jack and thumbdrive inside their M3 for that very reason. That's how I would do it if it were an issue for me. They do sell VERY tine USB drives now that have almost nothing sticking out. Have you looked into those?

-Mc

jkomp316 · Post by **jkomp316** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:52 pm

I hear ya on the system files/liability. But adding just one 128 slot .sng file wouldn't hurt anything. The drum patterns, voices, combi's are editable and saved internally? Allow one sequencer bank in the same fashion? They don't have to allow access via the MEDIA button.

McHale · Post by **McHale** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:05 pm

still not gonna happen. The SD card system is awesome in the sense that it allows them to change the ROM, which isn't possible on the M50, Triton, etc. But, if someone fills the card and an update comes out, the update will fail and you have a dead M3. And if someone deletes a file accidentally, dead M3.

As much as I'd like the ability to store stuff on it, it's better for all that they never allow that ESPECIALLY since we know how to access it and aren't afraid to do so.

Korg made the right decision to not allow us access to it...

-Mc

jkomp316 · Post by **jkomp316** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:00 am

Including one bank of sequencer data would not require the browsing of the internal files. The user installation of the EXB expansions is a higher liablity than the access of the internal SD free space. Having access to the system files and registry on my PC has never caused it to fail... The maximum size of a full sequencer bank cant be more than 100k?

McHale · Post by **McHale** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:10 am

I'm not the one to try to convince, Korg is. But I'm trying to help you save time, it's not likely going to happen. User files on the system disk is a bad idea. It just is.

Have you looked into the really small USB drives I told you about? I believe it was Sharp that posted links to them and they are small enough you won't even realize they are there...

-Mc

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:19 am

McHale wrote:Korg made the right decision to not allow us access to it...

Hey Mc, although that didn't stop you and me from storing our EX-USB-PCM samples there did it?

McHale · Post by **McHale** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:53 pm

TECHNICALLY, we just replicated what Korg was doing in other countries. The new M3's come with a larger SD card and contains the EXB expansions on it. I don't think that's the same as trying to use the SD card for day to day saving (and deleting) of user files. Don't forget that the Media button shows ALL files on the media drives, not just user files.

-Mc

jkomp316 · Post by **jkomp316** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:13 am

McHale wrote:Don't forget that the Media button shows ALL files on the media drives, not just user files.

So does SEQ+EXIT and a USB cable? Is it possible to partition an SD card?

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:27 am

jkomp316 wrote:
McHale wrote:Don't forget that the Media button shows ALL files on the media drives, not just user files.
So does SEQ+EXIT and a USB cable? Is it possible to partition an SD card?

Hi jcomp316,

SEQ+EXIT via a USB cable is a "leaked secret" and the use of the function is "unsupported" by Korg. What MC and I did was to upgrade our SD cards to 1GB capacity, copy over all the original files, then install the four EXPCM01.KEP EXPCM02.KEP EXPCM03.KEP and EXPCM04.KEP files on it. The Korg OS software detects the presence of these 4 files on the SD card, and will auto-load the files at startup. That is the only "useful" function in the OS in regard loading user data from the SD card. Further details on what we did are here:

http://karma-lab.wikidot.com/korg-m3:ex ... to-2-gbyte

It is not possible to use the MEDIA functions in OS2.x to access the SD card content, and we understand that Korg have no plan to change the functionality of the OS to permit any other type of user files being accessed from the SD card.

Best regards,
Rob