
Dream Electribe
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I wonder if making all parts 1-7 on the esx function like the two keyboard parts is a question of OS or does it involve hardware changes?
And, some human wrote the OS can't somebody somehow hack it and start making changes? Obviously I'm not a programmer and don't know much about it But i think it would be cool to have people making improvements even if Korg doesn't.
And, some human wrote the OS can't somebody somehow hack it and start making changes? Obviously I'm not a programmer and don't know much about it But i think it would be cool to have people making improvements even if Korg doesn't.
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yeah that would be pretty kick ass. if we could make any part any type we wanted. the machine drum does that btw. im not convinced it really makes that much of a difference to me though, but i would like to have more key parts.11hz wrote:I wonder if making all parts 1-7 on the esx function like the two keyboard parts is a question of OS or does it involve hardware changes?
And, some human wrote the OS can't somebody somehow hack it and start making changes? Obviously I'm not a programmer and don't know much about it But i think it would be cool to have people making improvements even if Korg doesn't.
btw.. using step sequencing and the pitch param, you can sequence out notes pretty easily on 'drum' parts just like you would on an old analouge sequencer.
here's a real basic chart i keep around for quick reference, though i more or less do it off the top of my head:
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Etc., -
C -12
C# -11
D -10
D# -9
E -8
F -7
F# -6
G -5
G# -4
A -3
A# -2
B -1
C 0
C# 1
D 2
D# 3
E 4
F 5
F# 6
G 7
G# 8
A 9
A# 10
B 11
C 12
Etc.. +
korgs: MS20, MS20 Mini, MS2000, KP1/KP3, Kaossilator, microX, padKontrol, DS-10+, Electribe ESX-1, ER1-MKII, Monotribe+midi
yeah, you would think that the drum parts could just as easily be keyboard parts too. That would be awesome!
I use the pitch parameter all the time on the drum parts to sequence notes and recently the pitch shift effect in the effects section to create cords.
the pitch parameter values are, assuming the sample that you want to work with is already tuned to C
etc...
+43 D
+41 C#
+39 C
etc.......
+12 D#
+9 D
+6 C#
0.................sample tuned to C.....................................
-6 B
-9 A#
-12 A
-15 G#
-18 F#
- etc......
-39 C
-41 B
-43 A#
-etc.....
The pitch shift values to create chords with the pitch shift effect:
etc.....to +2400 two octaves above root
+400 major 3rd
+300 minor 3rd above
+200 whole step above
+100 half step above
0....................................................root note.............................
-100 half step below
-200 whole step below
etc..... to -2400 two octaves below the root
I usually use a root + a 5th or 3rd above to create chords or use the sampe sample twice and use the pitch shift effect twice on with root + 3rd and the other Root + 5th and bingo you have a 3 note chord.
You can also motion sequence the pitch shift so that you can have Major Minor, or whatever you want, Progression in a pattern.
I use the pitch parameter all the time on the drum parts to sequence notes and recently the pitch shift effect in the effects section to create cords.
the pitch parameter values are, assuming the sample that you want to work with is already tuned to C
etc...
+43 D
+41 C#
+39 C
etc.......
+12 D#
+9 D
+6 C#
0.................sample tuned to C.....................................
-6 B
-9 A#
-12 A
-15 G#
-18 F#
- etc......
-39 C
-41 B
-43 A#
-etc.....
The pitch shift values to create chords with the pitch shift effect:
etc.....to +2400 two octaves above root
+400 major 3rd
+300 minor 3rd above
+200 whole step above
+100 half step above
0....................................................root note.............................
-100 half step below
-200 whole step below
etc..... to -2400 two octaves below the root
I usually use a root + a 5th or 3rd above to create chords or use the sampe sample twice and use the pitch shift effect twice on with root + 3rd and the other Root + 5th and bingo you have a 3 note chord.
You can also motion sequence the pitch shift so that you can have Major Minor, or whatever you want, Progression in a pattern.
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<a href="http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... =413574533" target="_blank">Music with ESX</a>
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<a href="http://www.myspace.com/11hzrobot" target="_blank">Music with Gameboys</a>
.
<a href="http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... =413574533" target="_blank">Music with ESX</a>
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<a href="http://www.myspace.com/11hzrobot" target="_blank">Music with Gameboys</a>
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please, no wood sides......there nice and sturdy as they are...though some sort of cosmetic changes are likely to happen, I think everyone is going more or less in the same direction. Better synth engine. Polyphonic. More fluid song mode creation. More individual outs (so you can process externally. More connectivity (USB) with software to match. better effects eg, (reverb) and more of them with better routing options. yes, definitly EQ in the parts common area with comprehensive controlls. internal resampling. more programable arpegiator. keep the ribbon controller. overall many more dials, if theres a spot that looks like it looks it needs a dial put one there...lol. And keep them in 2 different flavours like the esx, emx. theres prob a few things i've missed, but like someone else said most of this talk is just dreaming, electribes are on a bit of a revival thanks to youtube so korg might keep em goin for a bit, though shurely there be something superseed it, so if there are korg R+D guys listening, don't skimp on the features and quality...!
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I just got a chance to have hands on EMX-1 briefly - very promising machine, BUT, yes, it has no chord recognition. So korg if you ever plan a new grovebox just add chord recognition or some karma-like stuff (so that rhythm grooves can be transposed from realtime keyboard/button input) to EMX-1 and my money is yours 

With a PC (or mac?!) and Electribulator theses dream can come true ^^. (With some limitations of course).3. polyphonic
12. programmable arp rhythms (?dunno if it's that)
13. full ASDR envelope
The ADSR and polyphony was my first dream too. And I made what it's necessary to realise it for me.
But what do you mean by "programmable arp rhythms" in fact ?
yes i hope these sort of grooveboxes never die and incorporate both sampling and analog synthesis in the future - like the vaporised boomchik promised! But the esx is the closest I've found to my "dream machine" so I hope korg continues to produce these most usable though not always the best sounding machines. Can't wait for the next version!
you know... someone could make a software editor for the ESX-1 that would give an easy interface for using the drum parts with a note sequencer.. you'd choose the note you want in the editor but when it sends that info to the esx it would be setting it in cents/pitch value. that would be pretty cool.
korgs: MS20, MS20 Mini, MS2000, KP1/KP3, Kaossilator, microX, padKontrol, DS-10+, Electribe ESX-1, ER1-MKII, Monotribe+midi
Re: Dream Electribe
FreshHorses wrote:what would your dream electribe have? heres mine
1. 12 parts, all of which could be freely assigned to synth, user samples, or inbuilt drum samples
2. vocoder
3. polyphonic
4. sixteen knobs above the step keys as a motion sequencer
(a real quick way to edit levels of anything on each step)
5. cheap card storage
6. better reverb
7. maybe 4 effects?
9. nice silver or white casing with wood sides (no crazy colors)
10. a "nudge" feature, which would allow you to nudge the timing on each step forward or backwards (per part)
11. a boss editor
12. programmable arp rhythms
13. full ASDR envelope
that's about all I want.
can you imagine?
something like this would keep me occupied for the next 20 years
More space for more samples

an a send and return for other fx

WHY NOT JUST KEEP IT .........
as it is ???? Its a nice piece of hardware - if you want something new then it should be something new. Isn't it ? Why not go for SPECTRALIS then or something like that...........