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pa2x karaoke mp3/ cdg

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I pray to god that one major fix in the new OS will be that it reads
karaoke mp3+cdg files
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.... why would you want to lug a big heavy Pa800 or Pa2x keyboard to a venue where you are just going to use it instead of a $100 Karaoke MP3+G player or an iPOD?
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A lot of people dont make sense Rob and are making their lifes harder but what can you do.
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I have an idea why he would like that.For the same reason I do,I guess.
I have 500 gb of mp3+cdg.I t will be great to use the external hard drive to do a bit of karaoke combined with live music,or to have a choice.
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I also agree that I wish we had that option...
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Yes please make pa2x read CDG in update

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keyboard wrote:I also agree that I wish we had that option...
I agree - I would be nice to read CDG and do some karaoke with
the pa2x. If pa2x could read CDG files along with mp3 then I could
have people sing karaoke when I´m out on a gig - people love that.



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Rob Sherratt wrote:.... why would you want to lug a big heavy Pa800 or Pa2x keyboard to a venue where you are just going to use it instead of a $100 Karaoke MP3+G player or an iPOD?

This may not be totally unrelated but the canral cancel option in new prelude (roland) is very interesting since you can play (as well as sing) the central sounds while canceling the mp3 singer voice...do you think korg upgrades might be able to do this? :?
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Leave it to Roland and Ketron.
Don't think it will happen on PA800....
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You could always get a Pa1x which can play CD's.
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Rob Sherratt wrote:You could always get a Pa1x which can play CD's.
haha..I hardly got pa800 with my little saving money... :P ...pa1x still need central cancel option anyway...we need a kind of OS upgrade with central cancel option, so i can add mp3 to it!...why not request this option from korg people, may be they kindly consider it :wink:
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I suggest that you stay away from using a CD player of any kind for live performance. lap tops, iPods..are a lot better.

By the way, what do you mean by "central cancel option"???
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Assyrianpianist wrote:I suggest that you stay away from using a CD player of any kind for live performance. lap tops, iPods..are a lot better.

By the way, what do you mean by "central cancel option"???
this option currently available in roland (prelude keyboard)...simply by clicking this, (central cancel), you can easily diminish the central sounds from mp3 song, which are usually vocal sounds so then you can play along with it... :)
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motor30 wrote:
Assyrianpianist wrote:I suggest that you stay away from using a CD player of any kind for live performance. lap tops, iPods..are a lot better.

By the way, what do you mean by "central cancel option"???
this option currently available in roland (prelude keyboard)...simply by clicking this, (central cancel), you can easily diminish the central sounds from mp3 song, which are usually vocal sounds so then you can play along with it... :)
So it cancells out everything that is panned to the center, right? That's a big mess in my opinion. Even the pan/frequency based softwares and hardwares can't do a convincing job when it comes to eliminating vocals. From time to time, it works OK for some random tracks, but don't expect to load your favorite mp3s in there and play along the track comfortably. Diminishing vocals? that's really bad. Because you would still have lots of "diminished vocals" in the background, where people are expecting instrumental music coming out of a keyboard???

Have you tested this yourself?
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Personally I think that we're trying to go to far with a Keyboard here. First and foremost It's a Keyboard with keys that are meant to be played. The pa is a fine Instrument and has many options to help the player so why degrade it into a full blown karaoke player? For the cost of 1 pa2x you could Buy 10 good quality cdg Karaoke players properly designed for the job. But then we're going down the road of more real Gigging musicians losing their jobs because Karaoke is 'cheaper' to run. Seen it happen too many times to others and myself unfortunately. Horses for courses, so let's keep the keyboard for playing and let the karaoke jockeys do their own thing with the proper tools designed for the job.

Just my slant on it :)
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mrniceneasy wrote:Personally I think that we're trying to go to far with a Keyboard here. First and foremost It's a Keyboard with keys that are meant to be played. The pa is a fine Instrument and has many options to help the player so why degrade it into a full blown karaoke player? For the cost of 1 pa2x you could Buy 10 good quality cdg Karaoke players properly designed for the job. But then we're going down the road of more real Gigging musicians losing their jobs because Karaoke is 'cheaper' to run. Seen it happen too many times to others and myself unfortunately. Horses for courses, so let's keep the keyboard for playing and let the karaoke jockeys do their own thing with the proper tools designed for the job.

Just my slant on it :)
Keith, i would only partially agree with you on this. For one thing, I would never wish korg to spend time and resources working on a lousy add-on feature to diminish vocals. I spend anywhere between 50 to 70 hours a week working with audio related material, so i know very well what would be the outcome of such a feature. If one day some company pulled this off successfully, i wouldn't get upset though. I wouldn't have a use for it, but i'll find it interesting. If one wants to use a PA keyboard like a karaoke player, they can do it right now! Did you know that you could buy instrumental karaoke tracks without vocals,and play them through your onboard mp3 player??? Most karaoke companies have instrumental (without vocals, or backvocals) tracks of their songs for the same price!

I completely disagree with your thoughts on Karaoke jockeys Vs. giging musician. Remember that, initially synthesizers weren't meant to replace a Bassist, or drummer or a band altogether. They were looked at as some instruments that did their own parts in a band. Now, these keyboard arrangers are the Band. If you're a giging musician with an arranger keyboard , then, you personally have replaced a band!!!

I love my PA800, and I love the fact that it does what I want it to do for me, but at the end of the day, it's nothing more than an expensive toy. I have every reason to believe we have LESS musicians who play accoustic instruments because of arranger keyboards. This is very very very true about Middle Eastern countries.
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