Emx+esx together

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Emx+esx together

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I have ESX, but I am bored because it limitations. Not enough parts for samples and then u even have those parts which shuts the other, when playing same time. By the way can u disable this function somehow?

I was thinking that could u some how link these 2 to to get more power and options. Does the sequences run tighly together, cause that is most important? Thanks.
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BORED??? not enough samples? make your own and save them. simple. from what i understand midi them together and you're set. sequencing and all should be spot on but if you do go this route pls come back and tell us how it's going. good luck.

akk1975 wrote:I have ESX, but I am bored because it limitations. Not enough parts for samples and then u even have those parts which shuts the other, when playing same time. By the way can u disable this function somehow?

I was thinking that could u some how link these 2 to to get more power and options. Does the sequences run tighly together, cause that is most important? Thanks.
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Post by Setsonics »

First off, to answer your questions.

You can not turn off the disabling of those parts. It is not a huge limitation anyway from my point of view.

You can midi sync the ESX and the EMX perfectly together as well with a midi sync cable. There is information on the net about it, or even this forum. Just use the search function.


And now to comment on your view that the ESX-1 is limited:

I am just beginning to scratch the surface of my ESX-1 and I have worked on it A LOT. (6+ months of hard groove boxing, hours and hours most nights)

Now I am chopping up samples (Voice samples I recorded myself with a microphone) with the start point of the sample + motion sequencing and it is sounding awsome.

Seriously though, not to offend, but if you are bored with your ESX-1 then you really are not putting the time and effort into learning all the features of your groove box my friend.

It took me hours of tweaking modulation, cut-off and res + motion sequencing and careful keyboard part editing and mastering to get a reaaallly nice bass line. Hours bro.

Plus with the sampling capabilities you are basically unlimited in your options.

DO you have a Smart Media card? That is key to getting the most out of your box. If you have one you can load any sample you want, check the Korg ESX-1 group on yahoo, they have loads of samples up for download. (nanoloop, virus waveforms, everything!)

Also, as someone said here before, more samples does not make a song good. You have your stretch parts as well keep in mind, and have you even began to use your slice part yet? I have barley used it, I can not think of the possibilities.

I just recently started using all my stretch parts for my songs, before I would not use stretch or slice, now I use them a lot, this opens up more and more possibilities!

So basically, if you have read this far, you really need to put some more time into your box to get the most out of it.

Music takes a lot of hard work, though it can be fun and rewarding at times, it takes a very focused and dedicated mind to compose and produce a really solid sounding track!

I hope this helps.

Peace fool!


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^^^ well put.
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Post by Ruso »

it's not a limitation it's there for a reason I think what he's talking about is the high hat parts which is actually a HUGE feature. it is very useful. it's ment for proper high hat triggering (simulating a real drum kit) and it's great for other things too.

not enough sample parts is bs, it has too many for any of them to be heard clearly... It's kind of a mixing limitation of the electribes their sound quality isn't too great..... but if you think it's not enough then you're not using it right ;)....

emx+esx is a wicked combo too tho but I wouldn't move on until you fully explore either of them.... I recommend this to all people, learn a box to it's full potential before you move on..... for me I gave up on the electribes alltogether until recently I pulled my emx out and have been playing s ince cause of all the new stuff I found after taking a pause from it..... they're both heavy on their own and great together....
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Post by reddone »

interesting u mention that u left the mx for a while , ive also found that this helps u move on another stage when u come back fresh .

as well as being a tool to create music , i find these kinda boxes to be enjoyable sorta puzzles in a way , especially when trying to achieve a "finished' sounding tune straight from .

U gotta stick with it , and ... here's a tip to make it easier 4 u .... if u want to spend less time using tricks to make ur box sound more natural ... get a compressor , it'll do ur box a huge favour by tucking in any fallout .

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Post by anselmi »

this combo is more than enought to conjure almost any kind of electronic music and beyond...

the ESX itself is a monster synth with sampling oscillators
sure it has limitations, but i don´t think the quality of the results depends of them...maybe if youy want to get an ultra-specific thing with an ultra-specific working method you would feel frestricted in some way

nothing to add about the EMX...this box only could delivers whole tunes by itself...hours of experimentation is possible...and it could sound huge

anyway I believe the most advantage of this boxes is not at the music "dessign" side of creation but to interact, find things, happy accidents, new forms that only occurs if you don´t forces yourself to walk some specific way...just play it...that way you can go much more beyond your own limitations...i mean your pre-concept music limitations, that´s the real ones...when you stay in a fixed point looking at another fixed point...

that´s the difference between creative process and productive process

just get away from the limits of the boxes and try go deep inside of them
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Post by akk1975 »

Thanks guys! :) ESX is great and I love the quality over software. Hardware rocks!!!! Only thing I was complaining here was the limitation to not make make little sample sounds in the pattern cause the part space is limited. But maybe u are right , simplicity is power. And when we have no limitations like in softwares, we get lost from the right bath. I just would like to have couple more parts to make music more intresting. But I have to get into strech and slice section more carefully. I am just afraid that streching makes sound quality worse, that´s why I avoid it! Thanks anyway!
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Post by Ruso »

dude if you have't messed with stretch and slice then you're way off on how to use the machine dude those two open up so much textural possibilities..... take a short vocal phrase and stretch it across as many steps as you can..... pitch it up and down mess with sample start....

load up some weird glitchy soundscape into the slice part....

use the box unconventionally and you'll get more of a result....

forget it don't move on t o aa new box until you at least know what you're doing
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