
From start to finish - using nothing but the M3
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From start to finish - using nothing but the M3
Has anyone completed a track using only the M3? This machines seems to have all the tools you need to complete a decent track with it's Cue List, flexible FX routing and bouncing/recording a wav file... To tell you the truth I never had the time and determination to compose a track from start to finish using just the M3, although I use the sequencer alot ( I would appriciate piano roll editing by the way
) but... I always end up using a DAW even if it's just a demo song. So how do you do it? Anyone using only the M3 or you can't live without your DAW? Is it worth learning to use just the M3? [/i]

Can you tell me, just out of curiosity, why do you always use DAW and do you add something with it? Are M3's menus so complicated that you just haven't had patience to figure out how to create a final output file; is it just a bothersome process? Do you use your DAW for adding the effects and equalizer that you are used to and/or that will take more time to do on M3 (many people, me included, tend to rely on old and well-working solutions instead of leaving them and immediately experimenting with new)? Or any other reasons?
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Personally, I don't use the M3 for sequencing. I used to with the Tritons, but found the 5 insert effects far to limiting. Maybe it is just that I don't know how to use them correctly.
I prefer to use Cubase because you can apply a different set of effects to each track, and are only limited by CPU. That is not to say that the M3 does not sound fantastic on it's own.
I prefer to use Cubase because you can apply a different set of effects to each track, and are only limited by CPU. That is not to say that the M3 does not sound fantastic on it's own.
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My Gear History (from 11 years old until now):
Yamaha PSR-31, Technics KN1000, Technics KN5000, Technics KN7000, Korg PA-80, Korg Triton Classic, Microkorg, Korg Triton Studio, Alesis Ion, Korg Legacy Collection, Korg Triton Extreme, Roland Juno D, Access Virus TI 2, Korg M3, Korg Oasys, Roland TR-8, Korg Kronos 2 88 Platinum, Mac Studio, Logic Pro, Kontrol S61 MK3, Native Instruments Komplete Ultimate, Diva, Serum too name a few.
Please checkout my music at www.soundcloud.com/lcmorley
My Gear History (from 11 years old until now):
Yamaha PSR-31, Technics KN1000, Technics KN5000, Technics KN7000, Korg PA-80, Korg Triton Classic, Microkorg, Korg Triton Studio, Alesis Ion, Korg Legacy Collection, Korg Triton Extreme, Roland Juno D, Access Virus TI 2, Korg M3, Korg Oasys, Roland TR-8, Korg Kronos 2 88 Platinum, Mac Studio, Logic Pro, Kontrol S61 MK3, Native Instruments Komplete Ultimate, Diva, Serum too name a few.
well, when i had only the trinity i normally use its sequncer for my solo project (something between classical and ambient music) and pass through pc only for wave recording and cd burning. all mix and effect were managed inside trinity.
then when i start to expand a little my gear with a Virus rack and move to more electronic/experimental music i used to record some part on trinity, then pass each single track to my DAW and add the Virus sound on it.
now with M3 its depend on the moment, some times i use only M3 for everything and use the DAW only for some little post processing and some times i record track by track in the DAW.
anyway i found the new sequencer in M3 much more better than the one i was used in trinity and some M3 features (as drum track or karma effects) are really really usefull for my way of composing music.
then when i start to expand a little my gear with a Virus rack and move to more electronic/experimental music i used to record some part on trinity, then pass each single track to my DAW and add the Virus sound on it.
now with M3 its depend on the moment, some times i use only M3 for everything and use the DAW only for some little post processing and some times i record track by track in the DAW.
anyway i found the new sequencer in M3 much more better than the one i was used in trinity and some M3 features (as drum track or karma effects) are really really usefull for my way of composing music.
file unavailable
question:
i had the korg studio; saved all my work on to usb jump drive
purchased m3----inserted jump drive into back of m3
tried to load sequences---and received a message
"file unavailable"
any idea why?
i had the korg studio; saved all my work on to usb jump drive
purchased m3----inserted jump drive into back of m3
tried to load sequences---and received a message
"file unavailable"
any idea why?
Re: file unavailable
lucky1231 wrote:question:
i had the korg studio; saved all my work on to usb jump drive
purchased m3----inserted jump drive into back of m3
tried to load sequences---and received a message
"file unavailable"
any idea why?
Sorry, but data from a Triton is not compatible with the M3, as there are new features and parameters. All the Tritons where compatible with each other, but the M3 is a new generation of Korg workstations.
Re: file unavailable
Somebody said in some topic that you could create a MIDI file in Triton and successfully read it with M3. Standard sequencer files are uncompatible between Triton and M3 (they feature different synthesis systems), but MIDI is still a standard.rfoshaug wrote:Sorry, but data from a Triton is not compatible with the M3, as there are new features and parameters. All the Tritons where compatible with each other, but the M3 is a new generation of Korg workstations.lucky1231 wrote:question:
i had the korg studio; saved all my work on to usb jump drive
purchased m3----inserted jump drive into back of m3
tried to load sequences---and received a message
"file unavailable"
any idea why?
you can import a standard midifile into the m3 (.mid) exported by triton
but not a song file (.sng) saved by triton
but not a song file (.sng) saved by triton
YAMAHA W5 + TRITON proX (exb MOSS / exb PCM01 / exb PCM05 / exb SCSI / 64Mo) + M3-73 No.000187 v2.0 (exb Radias v2.0 / exb M256) + DOEPFER LMK2+
AKAI DPS16 + MINDPRINT Envoice + ART Dual MP + RODE NT1000
BEHRINGER DDX3216 + 4 MACKIE SRM350 + 2 MACKIE SWA1501 (+ PEAVEY KB300 )
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AKAI DPS16 + MINDPRINT Envoice + ART Dual MP + RODE NT1000
BEHRINGER DDX3216 + 4 MACKIE SRM350 + 2 MACKIE SWA1501 (+ PEAVEY KB300 )
...
I just got the M3 and have learned how to pretty much learned most all of it's functions in just three days, and the manuals good and sufficient to get the job done. I Have created a song file in the sequencer and successfully saved too, and loaded from a USB drive.
I did have some computer trouble however!
I saved the song file to my mac and when it loaded it re-loaded all the factory data with empty program spots. Maybe I need to try again.
If you are patient and love appreciating the sounds and technology of the machine you will naturally flow with it, eventually adding it to your tool belt as a musician. It can sequence a complete song fast once you learn. I will continue to use the M3 for pre-production from no on.[/b]
I did have some computer trouble however!
I saved the song file to my mac and when it loaded it re-loaded all the factory data with empty program spots. Maybe I need to try again.
If you are patient and love appreciating the sounds and technology of the machine you will naturally flow with it, eventually adding it to your tool belt as a musician. It can sequence a complete song fast once you learn. I will continue to use the M3 for pre-production from no on.[/b]
"Soup to Nuts" just like with the Triton Studio
I've taken a song on my M3M from an initial Karma laced sequence, through overdubs and sample recording, mixed it all down to a USB mounted SD card, and burned the audio CD with a USB Sony external burner. You don't need to leave the M3 if you don't want to.
I've done complete song cycles (concept to CD) on the Triton Studio, this was no different.
I've done complete song cycles (concept to CD) on the Triton Studio, this was no different.
"Soup to Nuts" just like with the Triton Studio
I wrote 2 songs just going thru the first 50 some odd pages of the manual = themes that I had never done before. Nice, tight and original. One has two tracks; the other three tracks = not over produced like most of what is heard today. If I add a vocal over it, then it will be more of a signature to my sound, otherwise the sound is somewhat generic since I used the M3 drums. The M3 drums are very good, [good enough to sketch out ideas at least] but not easy to get my exact preferred performance.
Follow the tutorials and hit it some every day and it is the "best bang for the buck" synthesizer + workstation + sampler money can buy!
ymmv,
KarmaKazi
Follow the tutorials and hit it some every day and it is the "best bang for the buck" synthesizer + workstation + sampler money can buy!

ymmv,
KarmaKazi
My KARMA ran over your dogma