HELP...can you change JINGLE BELLS Pad HIT to a Pad SEQUENCE

Dnj · Post by **Dnj** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:02 pm

so that it will repeat and follow the style like a sequence..

For example I use a SWING BALLAD 2 style for "WHITE CHRISTMAS"
& I would like the Jingle Bell pad to play as a repeatable sequence instead of just the one time HIT? To give a Christmas feel to the song on the PA800.

any help appreciated

Raul_z · Post by **Raul_z** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:46 pm

hi Dnj,
yes , you can do that in RECORD --> EDIT PAD --> MENU .

rikkisbears · Post by **rikkisbears** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:32 pm

Hi Donny,
you'd literally have to record a sequence.
I just checked my psr1500, it has a couple of sets of xmas sequence pads.
Some of them might adapt ok to the to the pa800. I'll let you know if it works.

best wishes
Rikki

Dnj wrote:so that it will repeat and follow the style like a sequence..

For example I use a SWING BALLAD 2 style for "WHITE CHRISTMAS"
& I would like the Jingle Bell pad to play as a repeatable sequence instead of just the one time HIT? To give a Christmas feel to the song on the PA800.

any help appreciated

Dnj · Post by **Dnj** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:49 pm

Rikki .....yes I remember the Multipad one Jingle bells on my yamahas 3k, T2....thats excactly what I need....please let me know how you make out.

Raul....If I did this on the pa800 with the Jingle bell Hit what are the steps to record the sequence.....& will it follow the style also?

rikkisbears · Post by **rikkisbears** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:18 am

Hi Donny,
not sure if it's the same as the T2 pad, I did a midifile to pa800 pad conversion? ( for want of a better term) , I tried it with the style, seems to work ok. Just email me at rikkisbears@hotmail.com
& let me know where to send it to you.

[quote="Dnj"]Rikki .....yes I remember the Multipad one Jingle bells on my yamahas 3k, T2....thats excactly what I need....please let me know how you make out.

Raul_z · Post by **Raul_z** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:01 pm

yes Dnj , it will. these are the steps you have to follow:

RECORD -> RECORD/EDIT PAD -> choose the pad that you want to edit.
change the PAD SYNC from OFF to CONTIN´D .
then go to the MENU -> PAD TRACK CONTROLS and change the pad type from ONE HIT to LOOP. and the save it.

GOOD LUCK.

Raul_z · Post by **Raul_z** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:02 pm

oops .. it isnt ONE HIT, its ONE SHOT.

Dnj · Post by **Dnj** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:29 pm

Raul....thanx so much I will try this asap..........it will be a great help to my music. I'll let you know how I make out .

donny

rikkisbears · Post by **rikkisbears** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:02 am

Hi Raul & Donny,
unfortunately that will still only give you a single"jingle" at the beginning of each bar, ( unless that's the effect you're after) not a jingling rhythm thruought the bar like the psr xmas pad does.
The Jingle pad in the PA800 is a "single hit" pad, wheras the psr pad is a sequenced pad with a rhythm.

Dnj · Post by **Dnj** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:36 pm

rikkisbears wrote:Hi Raul & Donny,
unfortunately that will still only give you a single"jingle" at the beginning of each bar, ( unless that's the effect you're after) not a jingling rhythm thruought the bar like the psr xmas pad does.
The Jingle pad in the PA800 is a "single hit" pad, wheras the psr pad is a sequenced pad with a rhythm.

Rikki & All.....I want the pa800 Jingle Pad to continue playing like "sequence pads do" Thruout the BAR just like the Psr Jingle pad repeatedly.....Is this possible? or do you have to actually Record it that way & then can you assign it to the sequence user pads?
Im getting confused.

rikkisbears · Post by **rikkisbears** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:27 pm

Hi Donny,
if you want a pad like the psr jingle sequence pad it has to be recorded that way, as a sequence.
Yes, definately possible.
Pads can be recorded in realtime, similar to recording a style track.
Pads can be recorded in steptime.
Pads can also be created from copying onboard styletracks
Pads can be created on a pc sequencer & imported as midifiles.

That's how I did my psr jingle pad to PA800 conversion.

Basically I turned the psr pad into a midifile & imported it into the PA as a midifile & created a pad.

I'm working on creating pads from the "Guitar Mode" style tracks that are available in some of the updated styles, that came with the 1.5 upgrade.

Also the possibility of using style tracks from converted styles to create pads.

The possibility for pad creation is mind boggling. That's why I luv this machine.

(Makes me wish I hadn't closed down my Makingstyles group. haahaa)

Rikki & All.....I want the pa800 Jingle Pad to continue playing like "sequence pads do" Thruout the BAR just like the Psr Jingle pad repeatedly.....Is this possible? or do you have to actually Record it that way & then can you assign it to the sequence user pads?
Im getting confused.

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Dnj · Post by **Dnj** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:39 am

Rikki can you send me the Jingle pad...Id like to hear it

I guess there is a process to make it a PAD From A midi file also correect & assign it to a user pad too?

thanx in advance

rikkisbears · Post by **rikkisbears** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:45 am

Hi Donny,
I've sent the pad.
The process is "Import SMF" page 140 of the original manual.

Bear in mind if recording on an external sequencer or using a track from a midifile created from just say a psr style,
make sure you have only a single track
also make sure you set it to channel 10 whether it's a drum track a guitar track or whatever,
it also has to be saved as midifile 0,
ThePA800 won't load it if you don't do the above.

PSR styles should be a fairly good source for creating pads. Avoid styles that use megavoices. PSR styles are based on maj7 chords which should work really well with the PA.
It's as simple as changing the .sty extension into mid, which turns it into a midifile. Loading it into a sequencer , deleting all the unwanted tracks, choose the part of the track you want to use, cut it down to 4 bars or so change the channel to 10, save as midifile 0 , and do the import smf conversion. to pad in the pa800.
I've used this method with some guitar & bass tracks from one of my psr beguine styles.
I'll probably upload them to one of the style forums including some step by step instructions on how I did them. The hard part will be the instructions haahaa.

Please let me know if you still don't get the pad, my emails must be getting lost.

Dnj wrote:Rikki can you send me the Jingle pad...Id like to hear it

I guess there is a process to make it a PAD From A midi file also correect & assign it to a user pad too?

thanx in advance

Dnj · Post by **Dnj** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:33 am

Rikki I have recieved it Thank you....now to get it to work as a user pad sequence so I can use it when ever I want in a style song

Dnj · Post by **Dnj** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:38 pm

Rikki,
I just want to personally thank you again for all your help in creating the repeating "Jingle Bell Pad" sequence from the Single "Hit" pad on the PA800 it is SO Much appreciated & needed!
How much can one arranger KB do?
I will now Rip into the Xmas Gig Season with reckless abandon tickling the keys with Holiday Favorites & make people Happy with Music & Song!

Best Regards to you & your family down under!

dp

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