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Xenomorph Senior Member
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 354 Location: U.S.A
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:22 pm Post subject: It has arrived.... |
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I threw it under the Nautilus real quick, spent about 90 minutes with it, and I'm floored with what can be done with this beast! I'll be rewatching Qui's videos for tips and tricks, and soon I'll be ordering Global Sounds goodies.
https://youtube.com/shorts/SgBINBWIoqM?si=vFnw-Se6NEzbq0HY _________________ Life is short, play a KORG!
Current: Pa5X, Nautilus
Past: M1, X5D, N364, Karma, X50, TR61, M50, micro-Korg, Triton Extreme, Pa3x, Roland Fantom 06, Akai mpc key61 |
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Asena Approved Merchant
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 2574 Location: Sweden/Malmoe
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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WOW , TOYS! PLAY GROUND! NICE _________________ www.globalsound.se
KORG PA 5-X/YAMAHA GENOS 2/YAMAHA A 5000
LIONSTRACK X 76 & GROOVE XR
MEDELI AKX-10
MacbookproM2-Ssd/Logic/Neuman/Kali Audio8/Komplette14SDD/ Apollo Twin/PIONEER XDJ RX 2
LOTS OF SAMPLE SOUNDS!
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Blazenko Junior Member
Joined: 29 Dec 2020 Posts: 83
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:29 am Post subject: Re: It has arrived.... |
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Xenomorph wrote: | I threw it under the Nautilus real quick, spent about 90 minutes with it, and I'm floored with what can be done with this beast! I'll be rewatching Qui's videos for tips and tricks, and soon I'll be ordering Global Sounds goodies.
https://youtube.com/shorts/SgBINBWIoqM?si=vFnw-Se6NEzbq0HY |
Can you please tell us how the KORG PA5X compares sound-wise to the KORG Nautilus? For example, by selecting the same sounds and simply listening to determine which keyboard sounds better. Yes, I know, subjective, but still in a direct comparison. Better stereo image, more assertive, just crisper. _________________ Korg PA4X Musikant |
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Xenomorph Senior Member
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 354 Location: U.S.A
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Blazenko wrote: | Xenomorph wrote: | I threw it under the Nautilus real quick, spent about 90 minutes with it, and I'm floored with what can be done with this beast! I'll be rewatching Qui's videos for tips and tricks, and soon I'll be ordering Global Sounds goodies.
https://youtube.com/shorts/SgBINBWIoqM?si=vFnw-Se6NEzbq0HY |
Can you please tell us how the KORG PA5X compares sound-wise to the KORG Nautilus? For example, by selecting the same sounds and simply listening to determine which keyboard sounds better. Yes, I know, subjective, but still in a direct comparison. Better stereo image, more assertive, just crisper. |
That was the 1st thing I did, I matched volumes as best I could, and compared japanese and Italian grands, and the Nautilus wins, but they are almost identical. Actually, it is indeed subjective, the Nautilus sounds lighter and ever so slightly clearer. But the heavier sound of the pa5x sounds great too. I'll make a vid comparing the factory sounds in a few days and I'll post it.
*I will say that the brass and strings on the pa5x kill the Nautilus. Maybe I just wanted to hear the difference, I need to spend more time on it, but my jaw dropped when playing the orchestral sounds, etc. The build quality is amazing too, I'll take quality and heft over light cheap plastic every day of the week. I just turned 50, I may have a different opinion on weight in 15 yrs.
I love the keybed on the Pa5x. Might be the best I've ever used. OK I could gush for hours, that's enough for now
* 1 more thing.. the screen response is immaculate. Cannot stand the antiquated screens on everything else that Korg seems to love. _________________ Life is short, play a KORG!
Current: Pa5X, Nautilus
Past: M1, X5D, N364, Karma, X50, TR61, M50, micro-Korg, Triton Extreme, Pa3x, Roland Fantom 06, Akai mpc key61 |
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Blazenko Junior Member
Joined: 29 Dec 2020 Posts: 83
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks
I just ordered my Pa5X . _________________ Korg PA4X Musikant |
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nitecrawler Platinum Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 978 Location: from a mile high to the the AZ desert
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: It has arrived.... |
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Blazenko wrote: | Xenomorph wrote: | I threw it under the Nautilus real quick, spent about 90 minutes with it, and I'm floored with what can be done with this beast! I'll be rewatching Qui's videos for tips and tricks, and soon I'll be ordering Global Sounds goodies.
https://youtube.com/shorts/SgBINBWIoqM?si=vFnw-Se6NEzbq0HY |
Can you please tell us how the KORG PA5X compares sound-wise to the KORG Nautilus? For example, by selecting the same sounds and simply listening to determine which keyboard sounds better. Yes, I know, subjective, but still in a direct comparison. Better stereo image, more assertive, just crisper. |
Well I have my Pa5x and the Nautilus in my home studio and would say, from my perspective, that the two keyboards complement each other rather than one sounding better than the other. Being primarily a piano player, I like the shear amount of available pianos in the Nautilus. The Pa5x is not a slouch in the piano department but it shines in other sounds in my opinion as well. The strength of the Pa5x is in its ability to modulate sounds to provide more accurate sounding interpretations of brass, guitar and strings for example. Having played for many years, I can say that keyboard players of today are blessed with all the available options that we never had 40 or 50 years ago. I am happy to have both. _________________ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=807494
Montage M7, Pa5x76, Nautilus, PA3Xle, Oasys 76, Mini-Moog, EMU Audity 2000, Motion Sound KBR 3D amp, Presonus and Reaper DAW W/Tannoy Reveal 501A powered monitors |
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Xenomorph Senior Member
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 354 Location: U.S.A
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Blazenko wrote: | Thanks
I just ordered my Pa5X . |
Congrats! _________________ Life is short, play a KORG!
Current: Pa5X, Nautilus
Past: M1, X5D, N364, Karma, X50, TR61, M50, micro-Korg, Triton Extreme, Pa3x, Roland Fantom 06, Akai mpc key61 |
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Xenomorph Senior Member
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 354 Location: U.S.A
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: It has arrived.... |
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nitecrawler wrote: | Blazenko wrote: | Xenomorph wrote: | I threw it under the Nautilus real quick, spent about 90 minutes with it, and I'm floored with what can be done with this beast! I'll be rewatching Qui's videos for tips and tricks, and soon I'll be ordering Global Sounds goodies.
https://youtube.com/shorts/SgBINBWIoqM?si=vFnw-Se6NEzbq0HY |
Can you please tell us how the KORG PA5X compares sound-wise to the KORG Nautilus? For example, by selecting the same sounds and simply listening to determine which keyboard sounds better. Yes, I know, subjective, but still in a direct comparison. Better stereo image, more assertive, just crisper. |
Well I have my Pa5x and the Nautilus in my home studio and would say, from my perspective, that the two keyboards complement each other rather than one sounding better than the other. Being primarily a piano player, I like the shear amount of available pianos in the Nautilus. The Pa5x is not a slouch in the piano department but it shines in other sounds in my opinion as well. The strength of the Pa5x is in its ability to modulate sounds to provide more accurate sounding interpretations of brass, guitar and strings for example. Having played for many years, I can say that keyboard players of today are blessed with all the available options that we never had 40 or 50 years ago. I am happy to have both. |
Agree on everything above. I saw 2 gentlemen that had the same combo, they do indeed compliment one another. Thats another I forgot to mention, the guitars, some of the nylons specifically. Very very impressive. And to think, I believed we were at the pinnacle of sound quality 36 yrs ago when I got the M1 _________________ Life is short, play a KORG!
Current: Pa5X, Nautilus
Past: M1, X5D, N364, Karma, X50, TR61, M50, micro-Korg, Triton Extreme, Pa3x, Roland Fantom 06, Akai mpc key61 |
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chelsea4023 Senior Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2016 Posts: 475 Location: West London, U.K.
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I have then same combination, Nautilus 88 lower keyboard with the PA5X 61 note upper keyboard. I also have Roland PK5 bass pedals connected (I started my musical journey playing organ).
I find it useful to be able to midi them up and play the piano sounds on the PA5X using the 88 note weighted keys of the Nautilus. It would be easy to say one is better than the other, but together they are very powerful. I would not want to fault either as they both have a big 'learning curve' (for me anyway), but I don't regret owning either. Strongest sounds on the PA5X against the Nautilus for me are the acoustic guitars. The choice of Nautilus pianos is huge.
Chris |
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F-Minor
Joined: 07 Mar 2023 Posts: 46
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:57 am Post subject: Re: It has arrived.... |
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Xenomorph wrote: | I threw it under the Nautilus real quick, spent about 90 minutes with it, and I'm floored with what can be done with this beast! I'll be rewatching Qui's videos for tips and tricks, and soon I'll be ordering Global Sounds goodies.
https://youtube.com/shorts/SgBINBWIoqM?si=vFnw-Se6NEzbq0HY |
Congratulations with your purchase & I bet you will be musically inspired by this beautiful instrument. Qui’s videos will surely help you to get the best out of it, I still re-watch them regularly! Good luck! _________________ Musical greetz,
F-Minor
PA5X 88 (& I love it! )
YT: https://www.youtube.com/@FransV2010 |
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F-Minor
Joined: 07 Mar 2023 Posts: 46
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:20 am Post subject: Re: It has arrived.... |
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F-Minor wrote: | Xenomorph wrote: | I threw it under the Nautilus real quick, spent about 90 minutes with it, and I'm floored with what can be done with this beast! I'll be rewatching Qui's videos for tips and tricks, and soon I'll be ordering Global Sounds goodies.
https://youtube.com/shorts/SgBINBWIoqM?si=vFnw-Se6NEzbq0HY |
Congratulations with your purchase & I bet you will be musically inspired by this beautiful instrument. Qui’s videos will surely help you to get the best out of it, I still re-watch them regularly! Good luck! |
Another great source of information on YT is the UK Keyboard Academy. Paul Carman explains a lot of the basic functions of the PA5X in a very detailed, pleasant and easy to understand manner. Highly recommended for the basics.
www.youtube.com/@KeyboardAcademy-UK _________________ Musical greetz,
F-Minor
PA5X 88 (& I love it! )
YT: https://www.youtube.com/@FransV2010 |
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Xenomorph Senior Member
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 354 Location: U.S.A
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: It has arrived.... |
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F-Minor wrote: | F-Minor wrote: | Xenomorph wrote: | I threw it under the Nautilus real quick, spent about 90 minutes with it, and I'm floored with what can be done with this beast! I'll be rewatching Qui's videos for tips and tricks, and soon I'll be ordering Global Sounds goodies.
https://youtube.com/shorts/SgBINBWIoqM?si=vFnw-Se6NEzbq0HY |
Congratulations with your purchase & I bet you will be musically inspired by this beautiful instrument. Qui’s videos will surely help you to get the best out of it, I still re-watch them regularly! Good luck! |
Another great source of information on YT is the UK Keyboard Academy. Paul Carman explains a lot of the basic functions of the PA5X in a very detailed, pleasant and easy to understand manner. Highly recommended for the basics.
www.youtube.com/@KeyboardAcademy-UK |
I'm sub'd to that channel too, very insightful. I've barely touched it between work, moving rack onto a different wall, and setting up led lighting. When I sit down at it, the entire day will go by in the blink of an eye.
_________________ Life is short, play a KORG!
Current: Pa5X, Nautilus
Past: M1, X5D, N364, Karma, X50, TR61, M50, micro-Korg, Triton Extreme, Pa3x, Roland Fantom 06, Akai mpc key61 |
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JagiChan Full Member
Joined: 20 Aug 2023 Posts: 122
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Nice setup. Congratulations and most of all have fun. |
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Blazenko Junior Member
Joined: 29 Dec 2020 Posts: 83
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Blazenko wrote: | Thanks
I just ordered my Pa5X . |
So, now I’ve had the KORG PA-5X keyboard for just about two weeks and can state the following, at least personally.
The KORG PA-5X sounds significantly better than the PA-4X. And I also find it sound wise better than the Genos2. It has better stereo width, better stereo depth, just clearer and more assertive the PA-5X sounds.
What I absolutely do not like are the styles. The styles, in my opinion, are an absolute disaster. And in comparison to the Yamaha Genos2 for example, the Genos2 just has excellently programmed styles. Although they are song-based styles, these styles are just superbly programmed, wonderful to play, and just fun.
The styles on the PA-5X are really a catastrophe. And so uninspiring, no idea what KORG was thinking. The keyboard, the keybed feeling is really very good, the display is excellent. So far, it has crashed on me a few times, but okay, I feared that might happen. One can live with it and I am waiting for new updates. So basically, although I am satisfied with the PA-5X in terms of sound, the styles are indeed a downer (for me). _________________ Korg PA4X Musikant |
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Xenomorph Senior Member
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 354 Location: U.S.A
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Blazenko wrote: | Blazenko wrote: | Thanks
I just ordered my Pa5X . |
So, now I’ve had the KORG PA-5X keyboard for just about two weeks and can state the following, at least personally.
The KORG PA-5X sounds significantly better than the PA-4X. And I also find it sound wise better than the Genos2. It has better stereo width, better stereo depth, just clearer and more assertive the PA-5X sounds.
What I absolutely do not like are the styles. The styles, in my opinion, are an absolute disaster. And in comparison to the Yamaha Genos2 for example, the Genos2 just has excellently programmed styles. Although they are song-based styles, these styles are just superbly programmed, wonderful to play, and just fun.
The styles on the PA-5X are really a catastrophe. And so uninspiring, no idea what KORG was thinking. The keyboard, the keybed feeling is really very good, the display is excellent. So far, it has crashed on me a few times, but okay, I feared that might happen. One can live with it and I am waiting for new updates. So basically, although I am satisfied with the PA-5X in terms of sound, the styles are indeed a downer (for me). |
16 days with it, and loving it. I don't do any deep editing, no crashes or issues of any sort, yet. Absolutely love the screen, the keybed is the best I've ever had. Its so easy to get to all parameters, straight foward workflow imo. But I tend to agree on the styles. I knew what I was getting, as I watched videos for 6 months b4 buying it. You have to get creative when matching a song to a style, but if the styles were better, we wouldn't have to get so creative. In that department, they are lacking.
But the sounds are so damn good that I'm not focusing on the generic styles. Again, I knew what I was getting. Now if I was an uninformed buyer and heard a genos 2 style demo, and assumed I'd be getting the same or better with the pa5x, I'd be very confused and upset right now.
Having the Nautilus in the mix is great. Best decision I ever made was to sell the akai and 06, and replace them with this. Adding Global Sounds Artist edition made it even better.
I get the feeling that this might be Korgs last Flagship arranger. If it's not, they really really need to prioritize much better Styles moving forward. _________________ Life is short, play a KORG!
Current: Pa5X, Nautilus
Past: M1, X5D, N364, Karma, X50, TR61, M50, micro-Korg, Triton Extreme, Pa3x, Roland Fantom 06, Akai mpc key61 |
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