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runningman67 Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2011 Posts: 1663 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:40 pm Post subject: Kronos and Prologue combo. |
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Seems like a perfect combo. The immediacy of the arpeggiator would be an obvious highlight to compliment the Kronos for me.
I don’t think there would be much crossover and layering analogue with digital can be amazing. I briefly had some goosebump moments with the JDXA, doing that.
Aesthetically the two wood ended beauties would look amazing together.
I’m in, anybody else following me
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos and Prologue combo. |
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runningman67 wrote: | Seems like a perfect combo. The immediacy of the arpeggiator would be an obvious highlight to compliment the Kronos for me.
I don’t think there would be much crossover and layering analogue with digital can be amazing. I briefly had some goosebump moments with the JDXA, doing that.
Aesthetically the two wood ended beauties would look amazing together.
I’m in, anybody else filling me
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i am not a new keyboard addict, etc. And any new board has to have practical use IMO
That might be different than what you would like to discuss _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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Synthee Senior Member
Joined: 21 Apr 2013 Posts: 298 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:22 am Post subject: Re: Kronos and Prologue combo. |
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I will get a Prologue 8 to complement my Kronos 2 88.
Yes, they will look beautiful together.
And the synthaction keys, analogue chain and easy sounddesign will complement my Kronos perfectly. _________________ Korg Kronos 2 88 ; The River ; Cubase 10.5 Pro ; PC Win 10 |
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burningbusch Approved Merchant
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1203 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Played the Prologue at NAMM today. The feel of the controls is solid and luxurious. Looks and feels like a top-flight instrument. Sounds wonderful. And when you start adding the 3rd oscillator set to FAT, unison mode, it's massive. Love it.
Busch. _________________ Kronos 73, Nautilus 61, Vox Continental 73, Monologue, Yamaha Montage 8, Rhodes Suitcase, Yamaha VL-1, Roland V-Synth, Yamaha AvantGrand, Minimoog Model D, Studio Electronics Omega 8, CSS, Spitfire, VSL, LASS, Sample Modeling, Ivory, Komplete 12, Spectrasonics, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc.
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runningman67 Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2011 Posts: 1663 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:49 am Post subject: |
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I think the 8 sensibly priced when you consider the specs and compare it to the competition. Same keybed as the Kronos 2 61.
Shipping in March in the UK. _________________ https://m.youtube.com/user/1967runningman |
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CharlesFerraro Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 955 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Well... for me personally the Prologue leaves nothing to be desired when stacked up to the Kronos. It would be fun to do direct comparisons between the Prologue and some of the VA's in the K. But yeah similar to what Greg said, a new sound design tool would have to have some sonic characteristics that aren't readily available with my current setup. So in that regard there aren't many synths out there that really leave something to be desired tbh... Maybe the VL1, V-SynthGT, or a suite like Kyma.
Still I'm really looking forward to trying out a Prologue sometime at a guitar center. And I'll suggest the Pro to all my friends who are looking to get into synthesizers. _________________ paypal.me/CharlesFerraro |
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laandodeman Senior Member
Joined: 07 Jul 2011 Posts: 417
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Prologue: no aftertouch.
BUMMER! _________________ www.silhouetteband.nl |
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mikeyd Senior Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 390 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="laandodeman"Prologue: no aftertouch. ]
BUMMER![/quote]
No aftertouch on an analogue synth? That's a huge mistake IMO. Looks like a great keyboard but why would you omit that? |
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Synthee Senior Member
Joined: 21 Apr 2013 Posts: 298 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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mikeyd wrote: | laandodeman wrote: | Prologue: no aftertouch. ]
BUMMER! |
No aftertouch on an analogue synth? That's a huge mistake IMO. Looks like a great keyboard but why would you omit that? |
Jupiter 8 doesn't have aftertouch.
I guess people must hate that synth and throw such a huge mistake of a synth on the dump. _________________ Korg Kronos 2 88 ; The River ; Cubase 10.5 Pro ; PC Win 10 |
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Synthee Senior Member
Joined: 21 Apr 2013 Posts: 298 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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CharlesFerraro wrote: | Well... for me personally the Prologue leaves nothing to be desired when stacked up to the Kronos. It would be fun to do direct comparisons between the Prologue and some of the VA's in the K. But yeah similar to what Greg said, a new sound design tool would have to have some sonic characteristics that aren't readily available with my current setup. So in that regard there aren't many synths out there that really leave something to be desired tbh... Maybe the VL1, V-SynthGT, or a suite like Kyma.
Still I'm really looking forward to trying out a Prologue sometime at a guitar center. And I'll suggest the Pro to all my friends who are looking to get into synthesizers. |
I agree that Kronos VA probably can sound as good as prologue.
That´s the problem with owning a Kronos. Its hard to motivate yourself to buy new synths, because Kronos can do almost everything.
But in my case, with a Kronos 88, the advantage to complement with a prologue is synthaction keys which can be nice to use on some sounds where the pianoaction feels unnatural, and the possibility to make sounds quick with lots of dedicated knobs. _________________ Korg Kronos 2 88 ; The River ; Cubase 10.5 Pro ; PC Win 10 |
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mikeyd Senior Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 390 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Synthee"][quote="mikeyd"][quote="laandodeman"]Prologue: no aftertouch. ]
BUMMER![/quote]
No aftertouch on an analogue synth? That's a huge mistake IMO. Looks like a great keyboard but why would you omit that?[/quote]
Jupiter 8 doesn't have aftertouch.
I guess people must hate that synth and throw such a huge mistake of a synth on the dump. [/quote]
Thus the reason I’d never own a Jupiter 8. But I wouldn’t own anything Roland. Wink |
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CharlesFerraro Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 955 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah the different key action totally makes sense, Synthee. The simplified sound design is also a boon. Simplification is why I'm very much looking forward to Gadget on Switch. _________________ paypal.me/CharlesFerraro |
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jeremykeys Platinum Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Posts: 3092 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Synthee wrote: | mikeyd wrote: | laandodeman wrote: | Prologue: no aftertouch. ]
BUMMER! |
No aftertouch on an analogue synth? That's a huge mistake IMO. Looks like a great keyboard but why would you omit that? |
Jupiter 8 doesn't have aftertouch.
I guess people must hate that synth and throw such a huge mistake of a synth on the dump. |
I heard they set them on fire first. That's why you never ever see them in the dump! They do it to save other people the aggravation. _________________ If music is the food of love, play on and play loud!
Gear: Kronos 73, Triton Pro-X, Wavestation EX, Polysix, King Korg, Monotron and Monotron Duo, Minikorg, Moog Grandmother, 1 Roland U-20, Hammond M3, 4 acoustic and 6 electric guitars, 1 Ibanez 5 string bass, a bunch of microphones and other very cool toys, 1 wife and 3 cats! |
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Lightbringer Senior Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2018 Posts: 356 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Analog revival is still hot and the Prologue looks smokin' from what I've seen. Realistically, much/most of the sounds you could create on the Prologue could probably also be created on the Kronos, but the immediacy of all the real time controls would probably inspire different choices in sound design as well as real time hand modulation in performance and recording.
The third digital osc can be a wavetable oscillator, and I don't think the Kronos has that, at least that I've found. Wavetable synthesis could (possibly?) be approximated with single cycle waveforms in the K's wave sequencer with short crossfades, but haven't tried it yet.
There is something to a real analog filter as well. I have not had a chance to try out FM with the AL-1 and it's ultra-low aliasing, but aliasing is something you don't have to worry about doing FM synthesis in the analog realm.
What I'd have really liked to have seen on the Prologue though is a bit more I/O. A few CV/audio ins and outs for interfacing to the Eurorack, which is also hot, would have been killer on something like this. I'm sure that would have added to the cost though.
I'm cleaned out from the recent Kronos addition, and there's way too much exploring to do in the K right now to justify adding anything else, but will keep an eye on the Prologue. Interested to see more reviews once it makes it into the hands of consumers. |
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jeremykeys Platinum Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Posts: 3092 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Lotsa knobs means lotsa fun! _________________ If music is the food of love, play on and play loud!
Gear: Kronos 73, Triton Pro-X, Wavestation EX, Polysix, King Korg, Monotron and Monotron Duo, Minikorg, Moog Grandmother, 1 Roland U-20, Hammond M3, 4 acoustic and 6 electric guitars, 1 Ibanez 5 string bass, a bunch of microphones and other very cool toys, 1 wife and 3 cats! |
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