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Mosquita Muerta
Joined: 23 Jan 2015 Posts: 23
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 7:46 pm Post subject: Yamaha Montage Orders |
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I would like to know, how many members in this Forum, ordered already the new Montage....Somebody ordered already ?, thanks guys! |
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jimknopf Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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And why and for which purpose do you want to know that in a Korg forum? _________________ Kronos 73 - Moog Voyager RME - Moog LP TE - Behringer Model D - Prophet 6 - Roland Jupiter Xm - Rhodes Stage 73 Mk I - Elektron Analog Rytm MkII - Roland TR-6s - Cubase 12 Pro + Groove Agent 5 |
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3127
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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jimknopf wrote: | And why and for which purpose do you want to know that in a Korg forum? |
Hehe, funny question....
I think Most people korgies and others have learned their lessons and stay away from new instruments the first 3 or 4 months... That gives the creators time to repair bugs... And the buyers time to get a better idea if this new instrument will add anything really new to their current setup.. |
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ErnstDabest Senior Member
Joined: 18 May 2014 Posts: 266
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 2:00 am Post subject: |
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The panel layout does it for me.. Montage is one gorgeous looking synth. _________________
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lunaluna Full Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2010 Posts: 139
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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I tried it out for a bit at GC. Nice sounds Pianos. EP, Strings ect.. Screen and board itself seem very crowded imho , sooo many buttons ! . It didn't feel user friendly at all . I was hoping to be automatically blown away like I was when I first tried out the Kronos . A lot of people will love the Montage , as for me I'll just stick to my two Kronos and wait for the Kronos succesor to come out however long it takes. |
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3127
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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lunaluna wrote: | I tried it out for a bit at GC. Nice sounds Pianos. EP, Strings ect.. Screen and board itself seem very crowded imho , sooo many buttons ! . It didn't feel user friendly at all . I was hoping to be automatically blown away like I was when I first tried out the Kronos . A lot of people will love the Montage , as for me I'll just stick to my two Kronos and wait for the Kronos succesor to come out however long it takes. |
I think espescially the non Kronos owners will be blown away by this synth... |
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TSUNAMI Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2002 Posts: 597 Location: Watford, Hertfordshire UK
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yep I've ordered a 7 _________________ 13in Retina MacBook Pro, Quadcore i5 27in 8GB iMac, Logic Studio 9.1, Ableton Live9, Push, Volca Beats, Korg KRONOS 61, Korg Arp odyssey, Roland D50, Yamaha SY85, Moog Sub37, Roland TR8, Roland SP808, Korg NanoPad2, Eventide H9, Presonus 1602, Alesis M1 MkII, Yamaha APX5, Fender Splattercaster, DrumKat DK10, 1000 miles of cable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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EXer Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 558 Location: France
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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I'm waiting for the Montage EX.
The next one, with AN-X, VL-X, FDSP-X and FS-X. |
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Kontrol49 Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 1280
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Bachus wrote: |
I think Most people korgies and others have learned their lessons and stay away from new instruments the first 3 or 4 months... That gives the creators time to repair bugs. |
And those of us to sit and wait for a secondhand bargain when the early adopters ditch it because its not what they thought it would be,being patient sometimes pays off financially too. |
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Derek Cook Approved Merchant
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 1282 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Not yet, but later in the year I will demo a 7 to see if it is an adequate stage replacement for my EX5 to pair with my Kronos (EX5 will always have a place in my studio). _________________ Derek Cook - Java Developer
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Derek Cook Approved Merchant
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 1282 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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EXer wrote: | I'm waiting for the Montage EX.
The next one, with AN-X, VL-X, FDSP-X and FS-X. |
It's nice to have a dream, as if you don't have a dream, how can you have a dream come true?
Seriously, I share your dream, but not convinced if it will ever come true. We'll see....... _________________ Derek Cook - Java Developer
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Kevin Nolan Approved Merchant
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 2524 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:42 am Post subject: |
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I think I'm with you on this Derek. Despite the AWM and FM engines onboard, the Montage isn't actually 'about them' - it's about its performance capabilities.
there may be good reason for this - I'm not sure having great synth engines on board is a good selling point. While the OASYS / Kronos have excellent synth engines, I see very little discussion about them on this forum, let alone elsewhere.
It never ceases to amaze me the complexity and depth of the standard synth engine on the Kronos. Their true polyphonic nature means that they all have hundreds of LFO's (4 per voice and at 80 voices that's 320 LFO's active) and similarly huge numbers of Step Sequencers, wave sequencing, polyphonic unison, dual voice programs, AMS, Dynamic MIDI, tonnes of effects, vector synthesis, wave sequencing, Karma....
The sky is the limit - but - nobody's really interested. Accept some are - but - those features have never hit the headlines in the same way as, for example the features of Omnisphere2 have, or some Sample Library release.
the Montage is similarly spec'd. Look at the manual for Montage and you see page after page of extraordinary features which frankly 20 years ago would have been headline news, yet nobody's noticing. think of all of the countless thousands of hours of design into the Montage synthesis capabilities - and how flexible they are - yet - nobody's noticing!
So for those reasons I don't think the Montage will see future synth engines, even if there is a "developmental path" for this instrument. Ina nutshell, nobody is waiting for VL, RCM, FDSP, AN technologies. Sure, some are, but I don't think enough are to warrant it.
I didn't buy a Montage after waxing lyrical about it on this forum; for the following reason - it's far more complex that I thought it would be - but - I'm weighted down with tech upskilling. After 10 years I still don't know Karma and really want to but cant get to those hundreds of pages of manuals on it; meanwhile Logic Pro, Ableton Live + Push, Omnisphere2 and a plethora of other hardware and software are needing attention. the Montage is way down the priority list. Had it had a relatively straight forward OS with FM programming recognizable in SY77 terms I would have bought it in a blink as I do think it is an excellent instrument; but I know if I but it I'll not harness even 10% of its capabilities so what's the point (I'm not one for presets - I can only engage an instrument by understanding it and designing my own sounds or significantly changing presets as the project dictates). |
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Derek Cook Approved Merchant
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 1282 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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I know what you mean, Kevin
I think a lot of us barely scratch the surface of what we have, but that means plenty of untapped potential for a rainy day.
I am still going to try a Montage later in the year, but will look carefully at the alternatives as well. _________________ Derek Cook - Java Developer
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