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Salto Junior Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2012 Posts: 93 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:37 am Post subject: KROME vs. EXTREME |
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I have an Extreme....Key bed is great....kills the M50 and the Yamaha MOX..
If the Key bed on the KROME is like the M50 forget it...
I'm guessing the pianos are better on the KROME ? But what else?
Comparisons anyone ? Worth an upgrade or do we pass?
Any one want to chime in on this and any other differences... |
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Stephen Platinum Member
Joined: 28 Aug 2002 Posts: 4709
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I would think seriously about replacing an Extreme...period!
I like my Krome, but if I had an Extreme I wouldn't have considered buying anything else, except maybe a Kronos.
As for the Pianos, yes, they're good, but many of the voices/patches, are the same as the TR, just enhanced with all that processing power, and the Extreme is not weak in that regard.
I have wondered what I could come up with for piano sounds if I had an Extreme to play around with.
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billbaker Platinum Member
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 2206 Location: Vienna, Virginia, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Salto,
I own the Extreme 88 and am considering the Krome for a couple of reasons.
First is the piano - I play that voice a lot with my band and it would be nice to have a really good one. I'm a bit concerned by recent posts, re: organ mostly, indicating that for some programs the summed mono output doesn't work. I don't know if this is for the whole board or just an artifact of the rotary speaker effect. There's a program fix, but it requires a fair amount of editing, so I'm really hoping that a stereo feed is not mandatory for best sound on all the voices - piano especially.
Second, I've done pretty extensive edits of the combis on my Extreme to get away from the straight 4-on-the-floor dance oriented flavor that was the Extreme's strong point. Looking over the drum patterns available for the drum track feature, I'm really pleased to see a lot of very different genres represented with several entries and not just the one or two squeezed into the extreme's arp section.
I've mostly given up on trying to get more than a decent drum arp on the extreme - Krome splits off the drum track that had previously eaten at least one arp function and gives you 2 arps plus drums. To me that pretty much doubles the usefulness of the arp section. And nice as KARMA is for some things, for me, the double arps are easier to grasp and get a decent/musical result from.
I'm not a big sequence guy, but Krome's sequencer looks to be state of the art with features not (yet) found on Kronos.
Bigger touch screen - and hey, it is a touch screen - unlike some knocked down boards that previously tried to hit this price point.
So yeah, Krome looks pretty good.
My own take is that you should have a weighted and unweighted board in your gig set-up; whichever Extreme model you have go for the other type in Krome.
As to the hands-on experience playing one? I'm in no huge hurry to buy without laying hands on it first. Until I can, I'm satisfied that the Extreme does most of the things I want it to, and does them really well.
BB _________________ billbaker
Triton Extreme 88, Triton Classic Pro, Trinity V3 Pro
+E-mu, Alesis, Korg, Kawai, Yamaha, Line-6, TC Elecronics, Behringer, Lexicon... |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Do not even talk about this! Replacing Extreme with Krone? NO MAN! _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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billbaker Platinum Member
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 2206 Location: Vienna, Virginia, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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@ Nedim,
Not even replacing my Extreme, but seriously considering replacing my "and" 'board which is currently a Triton Classic.
Between the Classic and Krome - I'm thinkin' Krome.
And the price tag works out to a month or so of gig money to get one.
The crisis for me is (well, do I really need another keyboard, but lets put that aside) between the Krome and the M3M, now running pretty much neck and neck price-wise.
BB
[Off-topic: notice Komplete 8 Ult. is now 1st on your list - liking it? Production only or gigging with it?] _________________ billbaker
Triton Extreme 88, Triton Classic Pro, Trinity V3 Pro
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csteen Platinum Member
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 792
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Stephen wrote: | I would think seriously about replacing an Extreme...period!
As for the Pianos, yes, they're good, but many of the voices/patches, are the same as the TR, just enhanced with all that processing power, and the Extreme is not weak in that regard.
$.02 | The voices are more like the M3/50 and not the TR just to clarify. I believe they have new effects routings as well. Check the krome threads on performance for more info on this. |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Bill, everything i use is 99% production, even my synths, i stopped
playing live and only on few occasions now. _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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uniformedservices1969 Guest
Joined: 18 Sep 2012 Posts: 115
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: KROME vs. EXTREME |
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Salto Junior Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2012 Posts: 93 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:23 am Post subject: |
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Love the input guys....I own the 61 key Extreme and yeah, on Budget workstations these keys aren't close to the Extreme.
I concur the drum patterns are not that useable for me......
So far the replies leave me where I was at.....If I get rid of the Extreme it's gotta be for a FLAGSHIP new synth...... |
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Stephen Platinum Member
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