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Hi, having owned a KTE76 for over a year now I must say that im not really entirely impressed with it. I feel that most of the sounds are either to in your face or just sound too thin. The string are to orchestral and not enough standard string sounds. The organ type sounds are too much and lacks the flute/drawbar settings.

Any one else think this?

I've gotten better string results when combining some orchestral string sounds with analog sounds.

As for organs, look at the architecture of the Triton series (and, may I add, virtually all workstation-class keyboards). They use samples, not tone generation algorithms, so it doesn't make sense that you'd have any kind of drawbar control over the organ sound. The only way that would happen is if they sampled every possible drawbar preset. On a B3, there are 9^9 or 387,420,489 possible drawbar presets. Add in the 16 possible percussion settings (2^4) and the 6 possible vibrato settings, and you've got 37,192,366,944 possibilities. Obviously, there's no way that's all getting sampled. The only way you'll get drawbar control is in a keyboard that models the tonewheels of the B3. Since workstations are sample-based instead and combining two different architectures is tough and expensive in hardware, it wasn't done here and isn't done elsewhere.

If you want drawbar control, get an OASYS, Nord Stage/Electro/C1 or other single-manual or dual-manual organ simulator from another manufacturer. If you're disappointed that the Triton Extreme doesn't work that way, you should've done your research before you bought it.

cjp_24 wrote:Hi, having owned a KTE76 for over a year now I must say that im not really entirely impressed with it. I feel that most of the sounds are either to in your face or just sound too thin. The string are to orchestral and not enough standard string sounds. The organ type sounds are too much and lacks the flute/drawbar settings.

Any one else think this?

In this year that you've owned it, how many patches have you written, modified, or sampled on your own?

If you are merely using presets, then you really have no basis to judge how the TrEx sounds in general, only how the presets sound. Presets that sound "thin" to you may have very well been intentionally designed to sound that way.

But if you want better acoustics and organs with virtual drawbars, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to get what you want.

The Yamaha PSR-S900 has organ flutes with virtual drawbars. It also has excellent acoustic instruments of all types, and there's no better keyboard for these kinds of instruments for the price. It is basically a Tyros 2 at a value price.

cjp_24 wrote:Hi, having owned a KTE76 for over a year now I must say that im not really entirely impressed with it. I feel that most of the sounds are either to in your face or just sound too thin. The string are to orchestral and not enough standard string sounds. The organ type sounds are too much and lacks the flute/drawbar settings.

Any one else think this?

Have you tried EXB- MOSS board installed in your TrExtreme? it can really imitate the B3 organ type sounds flute/drawbar settings by 99%.

Nor251 wrote:

cjp_24 wrote:Hi, having owned a KTE76 for over a year now I must say that im not really entirely impressed with it. I feel that most of the sounds are either to in your face or just sound too thin. The string are to orchestral and not enough standard string sounds. The organ type sounds are too much and lacks the flute/drawbar settings.

Any one else think this?

Have you tried EXB- MOSS board installed in your TrExtreme? it can really imitate the B3 organ type sounds flute/drawbar settings by 99%.

I have got the EXB-MOSS installed but not really played around with it that much. I will look into that further. You see Ive just joined a UB40 tribut band with my keyboard and organ sounds are some of the sounds that I will be using. Now that I have a purpose I will be looking for at the more advanced stuff with the KORG. And I will still buy a Yamaha Motif.

Cliff

I don't have the Extreme but I have the Le & The Rack and I've had the Le for around 4 years and was feeling the same way you was until I started doing more than playing presets. I started editing the Prgs & Combis to my liking. Once I started getting into it I found it not to be hard to do at all. Now I feel you are wasting your money if you don't at least try to make your expensive workstation to your liking. This is what it is made to do. I used to feel that the EL Pianos on the Le was not that good until and made a few changes. You will never be happy with every patch on any keyboard be it Korg, Roland, Yamaha or any other brand if you don't experiment with it. I must admit at first it was intimidating and I was saying some of the sounds suck. Now if I don't like it I fix it.

I feel that several of the presets are tweaked to sound their best alone, when the customer is trying them in the store before purchase. With just a little tweaking, these sounds can be much-improved for use with a band.

For example, some of the thin sounding patches are perfect in a mix...and many of the piano sounds benefit from a reduction of reverb.

I love my TE and have learned only a little about tweaking it, but I can now get very useable sounds, without much adjustment.

Presets are like suits you buy off the rack. You might find one that fits OK, but most need some tailoring to be presentable. And none off the rack will fit as well as one custom-made to your measurements.

Presets are best used as a starting point, not as a final product. Just a few settings like EQ, filter values, and effects can have a huge impact on the overall sound and how it fits into a mix.

xmlguy wrote:Presets are like suits you buy off the rack...

An excellent analogy!

http://www.easy-share.com/1903758611/STR-01W.rar - from Korg 01/W, it's a much more fun string sound than what's in the T/E... it's updated from the one on the download page. PCG & Sample Data, program is N 64

Also, someone in the classic thread forum mentioned adding a overdrive effect to the string sounds to make them stronger sounding.

Hmmmm I can't say I agree with the String dig but yes the organs are off on the Triton Extreme, none the less its one of the better workstations out there and a BEAST for live performances. I would like to get another, I have owned 4 in the past.