sustain pedal

Gaingreen · Post by **Gaingreen** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:56 pm

I have the SP2 sustain pedal. Not sure how the half damper calibration works, but alot of my electronic piano sounds sustain much too long. Is this a damper pedal issue, or is there a release/sustain value setting I need to change?

Thanks

jake88 · Post by **jake88** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:03 am

Just go to 'global' hit the drop down menu, and click on half-damper calibration. It will have you do a few things with the pedal, then you should be good. Many keyboards don't support half-dampers, so you'll definately hear a difference in sustaining times between them and your M3.

MickyLMR · Post by **MickyLMR** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:18 pm

Hi, I have the same problem. I don't know why but sustain too long and some high frequencies appear in the sound.

I've made the half damper calibrate but no significant correct ….

I use Roland DP-10 pedals.

I have another question, is it possible to adjust time duration of sustain. WHY ???
Because I use to play stand up and play with sustain pedal disturbs me …

MickyLMR · Post by **MickyLMR** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:41 pm

Nobody knows how?

I saw a keyboard player without pedal with a sound sustain. Certainly, he programs the sustain according to its piano style.

Somebody knows how he programs the sustain on the sound of Classic piano?

Thanks

jake88 · Post by **jake88** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:01 pm

yeah, you can. I don't remember exactly what page it is...but i'll check when I get home. Um, actually you can just move the "release" slider up a little, and that'll give you a longer release time without using a sustain pedal. There is another way to do it in the Page select settings and stuff, but this is way easier.

kayoticpig62 · Post by **kayoticpig62** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:56 am

MartinHines · Post by **MartinHines** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:34 am

kayoticpig62 wrote:That BLOWS!!!!!!! I'm ready to eBay this thing. A damper pedal should act as a release and hold ....... not some f@#ked up adjustement on the panel.!!!!!!

The Damper/Sustain pedal works fine. So does the half-damper function (if you have the Korg DS-1H pedal).

These pedal operations are IDENTICAL to what was in the Triton, Triton Studio, and Triton Extreme.

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:24 am

kayoticpig62 wrote:That BLOWS!!!!!!! I'm ready to eBay this thing. A damper pedal should act as a release and hold ....... not some f@#ked up adjustement on the panel.!!!!!!

Why don't you just get the Korg DS-1H half damper pedal like it says in the manual, instead of selling the $3,000 M3 because your $30 non-Korg pedal is not compatible?

Regards,
Rob

kayoticpig62 · Post by **kayoticpig62** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:59 am

Rob Sherratt
Platinum Member

For the record..... I own a Yamaha Motif ES8, an Access Virus TI, a Moog Voyager and now an M-3. Buying a new susutain pedal is not a factor. A pricey peice of equipment, such as the M-3, should have the capability to have a plug and play sustain pedal....period ...the end! The last time I had a reverse polarized situation with a sustain pedal was with a Novation product some 10 years ago. So please, if you're going to offer a suggestion, think before submitting your inexperienced, mindlessly dense spew!
Thank You...................OUT!

jerrythek · Post by **jerrythek** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:18 pm

Gaingreen wrote:I have the SP2 sustain pedal. Not sure how the half damper calibration works, but alot of my electronic piano sounds sustain much too long. Is this a damper pedal issue, or is there a release/sustain value setting I need to change?

Thanks

The M-Audio SP-2 specs say it has a polarity switch - make sure to set it to (-) and then run the pedal calibration in Global Mode as others have instructed. be sure to SAVE GLOBAL SETTINGS after doing this so your setting are remembered.

Then report back here, things should be fine.

I can't understand if you are just saying you'd like to adjust the decay/sustain portion of our programming, or you are talking about the release stage (what happend when you let go of the keys).

Regards,

Jerry

jerrythek · Post by **jerrythek** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:24 pm

MickyLMR wrote:Nobody knows how?

I saw a keyboard player without pedal with a sound sustain. Certainly, he programs the sustain according to its piano style.

Somebody knows how he programs the sustain on the sound of Classic piano?

Thanks

If you are truly talking about how long it takes for the sound to die away while you are holding your keys on the keyboard, you want to adjust the Amp envelope.

To first experiment with this I would go to the Tone Adjust Page and adjust Sliders 6 and 7 to see if these are the parameters you are talking about. But on this page you are working a simple ADSR (Attack, Decay, Sustain and Release) envelope adjustment.

In the end it's better to go to the Amp Envelope page and work with the Rate/Time controls for Decay, Slope and Release. Take them down slightly in number and experiment to learn the powerful control you can have over shaping the sound.

Extra hint: you may find that simply changing the Curve will do the trick for you.

Experiment/have fun - there's plenty of control over the sounds - it IS a synth!

Regards,

Jerry

jerrythek · Post by **jerrythek** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:27 pm

kayoticpig62 wrote:Rob Sherratt
Platinum Member

For the record..... I own a Yamaha Motif ES8, an Access Virus TI, a Moog Voyager and now an M-3. Buying a new susutain pedal is not a factor. A pricey peice of equipment, such as the M-3, should have the capability to have a plug and play sustain pedal....period ...the end! The last time I had a reverse polarized situation with a sustain pedal was with a Novation product some 10 years ago. So please, if you're going to offer a suggestion, think before submitting your inexperienced, mindlessly dense spew!
Thank You...................OUT!

Wow... as I recall, on the Motif ES you can only use Yamaha polarity pedals, there is no adjustment for polarity as we offer on our products. So if you did own a (-) polarity pedal and asked for support from a Yamaha forum you'd be told you have to get a new/different pedal...

Lucky for that forum you never had that problem.

Jerry

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:40 pm

kayoticpig62 wrote:That BLOWS!!!!!!! I'm ready to eBay this thing. A damper pedal should act as a release and hold ....... not some f@#ked up adjustement on the panel.!!!!!!

The post talking about using the control surface was in response to a question a few posts down from the opening post, asking how to sustain without using a pedal.
Indeed a pedal should work straight out the box, if not just adjusting the polarity in the global page.
A half-damper needs calibrating because it covers a range, not just a simple on/off switch like most footswitch/damper pedals.
it is just like a computer joystick would need calibrating - the system needs to know how far the input goes in order to respond correctly.

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:15 pm

kayoticpig62 wrote:Rob Sherratt
Platinum Member

For the record..... I own a Yamaha Motif ES8, an Access Virus TI, a Moog Voyager and now an M-3. Buying a new susutain pedal is not a factor. A pricey peice of equipment, such as the M-3, should have the capability to have a plug and play sustain pedal....period ...the end! The last time I had a reverse polarized situation with a sustain pedal was with a Novation product some 10 years ago. So please, if you're going to offer a suggestion, think before submitting your inexperienced, mindlessly dense spew!
Thank You...................OUT!

I see you picked an appropriate user name to compliment the 4 messages you've posted so far on this forum.

kayoticpig62 · Post by **kayoticpig62** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:53 pm

Problem resolved.... Thanks for the positive response. A million apologies for my prior belligerence!

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