increase fill from 1 beat to 4 beats

[Rosco_Australia]

I am using 6/8 Pop Rock, 152 tempo, to play " How Sweet it is to be loved by you". Style located in V34-36 that Pete set up a few years back during COVID. Great work Pete. The fill is only 1 beat and I require a 4 beat fill, when it moves from the verse to the chorus. Any idea on how I increase the fill to 4 beats for the 4 variations. Regards, Rosco

[siebenhirter]

I am using 6/8 Pop Rock .. fill is only 1 beat and I require a 4 beat fill ..

To increase to 4 bars, in Style Record change Fill to a CV-Length of 4 and also Rec-Length of 4.

Now each of the bars 2, 3 and 4 have the same content of Midi Events, automatically copied from the first bar, but the length of the Fill is 4 bars. The content of bars is to edit according to personal preferences.

Each of the other fills can be expanded in the same manner und and before exiting the style editor it is of course necessary to save the style with the changed length.

With a Pa1000 the problem using a four-bar fill-in is that you have to hold down the variation-button + fill-button until the fourth bar in case auto-fill is inaktive, so that the auto-fill is played in full when the variation changes.

I do not think this will also be the case with the Pa4x, but only on models without a fill button, when auto-fill is inactive.

Also noteworthy is the Cue Mode, which also allows for the fill-ins Next-measure-First-measure, Immediate-first-measure and Immediate-current-measure.

[Rosco_Australia]

Thank you. I'll give it a try tomorrow. Regards, Rosco

[Rosco_Australia]

Hi Siebenhirter,
I modified as per your instruction, but unfortunately it didn't make any difference. The measure decreases from 16 to 4 when I look at the M on the style window, (when the style is playing) but as I said it doesn't the VAR doesn't fill the whole 6/8 bar.
Regards, Ross

[siebenhirter]

.. modified as per your instruction, but unfortunately it didn't make any difference.....

Hello Ross,
maybe you made an operating error in the style editor, because extending a fill from 1 bar to 4 bars works as I described:
the "fill" elements of the current style are changed in the style record to a length of 4 bars instead of the existing length of 1 bar of CV length and Rec length.

The additional bars (2 - 4) are then changed to the intended MIDI events and, if necessary, to a selected cue mode. The style must then of course be saved with these changes before leaving the style record mode. Without changing the MIDI events in bars 2 - 4, you only get a repetition of the MIDI events of the first bars in each bar of this fill element.

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During playback, the display "M" shows the continuous bar of the current style element, so that an activated fill -4, -3, -2 and -1 is shown in the display before changing to the first bar of the variation, which is shown with 1, 2 ....

If a style is selected but not yet started, the "M" in the display changes to "L" and thus shows the length of the style element - in 6/8 Pop Rock this is 16 bars for each variation, as well as different lengths displayed for the intro and ending elements. The length of the fill-ins is 1 bar in the original, or 4 bars after modification as intended.

If the display shows L:4 bars for the fills, then these fills are also extended to four bars.

.. measure decreases from 16 to 4 when I look at the M on the style window, (when the style is playing) but as I said it doesn't the VAR doesn't fill the whole 6/8 bar...

Your information about the "M" display is unclear to me, as the "M" display shows information about a current bar of the element or a running style, the set cue mode and the trigger point of fills, intros, endings.

Example:
If a four-bar fill-in is triggered in the seventh bar of a 16-bar variation with a cue mode of "Next bar current bar", then the display of "M" starts with -2 and -1, replacing the 7th and 8th bars with the fill, and then switches to the first bar of the variation. The fill replaces the last two bars of the current bar after the 6th bar and then changes to the next bar (M: ... 6, 7, -2, -1, 1, 2 ....).

If the fill is triggered with the same setting in the fourth bar, then "M" only shows -1 before it changes to the first bar of the variation, because the fourth bar of the variation is replaced by the last bar of the fill and then changes to the first bar of the variation (M: = . ..3, 4, -1, 1, 2, 3 .....)
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Send me an email address via PM and I will send you the 6/8 Pop Rock with fills of 4 bar length whose content (Midi events) can be changed according to your personal wishes, because content of fill bars 2 to 4 per default are repetetions of bar 1.

[Rosco_Australia]

Hi Siebenhirter, I just realised I changed VAR1, rather than FILL1. My mistake. When I changed VAR1, VAR2, VAR3 and VAR4 to 4, it worked perfectly. Thank you for your help. Regards, Ross