Dear Korg

exsequor699 · Post by **exsequor699** » Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:18 pm

Hello. Today Korg sale period ends. I am going to share a letter from mister Kurt Ader to the Korg team, from earlier this year. Sadly, its been a while since I purchase libraries because of the need of more Program banks.

"Dear KORG,
Thank you so much for the new update 3.14 that removes the limitation of EXs installation but it would be great if you continue to support your flagship users!
It would be great if you expand the dark mode and also the program banks like the Nautilus!
I know there is a cost involved but your KRONOS users will really thank you!
The majority of users would even be willing to pay for such an extensive update!
Please listen to us!!!!
All the best,
Kurt
KApro kurt ader productions"

pete.m · Post by **pete.m** » Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:30 pm

Have to agree with that. I'd be very happy to have the capacity to replace the GM banks that I never use with my own.

Mike Conway · Post by **Mike Conway** » Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:00 pm

pete.m wrote:I'd be very happy to have the capacity to replace the GM banks that I never use with my own.

Same!

janrhansen · Post by **janrhansen** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:32 pm

pete.m wrote:Have to agree with that. I'd be very happy to have the capacity to replace the GM banks that I never use with my own.

Not sure if the GM banks is software loaded or hardcoded, but if they made extra banks for the Nautilus, can't be that hard to make a system update that can load x amount of banks extra. I could live with that there arent physical knobs available to select them, but that could propably be solved too by using a combination of knobs to select them.

Theoretically it's just a question of how much of the ram is used for holding program banks. It's something I have been wondering about myself.

Fair enough that they don't want to spent the time on building the OS as 64 bit, even It really shouldn't be that difficult but every newer Kronos 2 have 4gb installed by default, and many have upgraded their Kronos "1". Even it is limited to about 3.4gb by the 32bit OS, but it is wasted memory that could be assigned for a ram disk before loading the synth OS which could be used for such things as extra software sound banks.

timg11 · Post by **timg11** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:01 am

I posted a design concept for expanding program storage banks in 2015, which started a thread.

Dan at Korg chimed in, and argued against every suggestion and option that was offered for more program banks. Basically, his position was 1) expanding program banks would take memory away from sample storage, which he feels is more important. 2) He didn't think making expanded programs an optional mode (like Live vs Studio mute mode) would be practical.

Read the thread and see if I missed anything.

Pedja · Post by **Pedja** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:05 pm

Excellent
Suggestions!!! Special thanks to Mr. Kurt Ader for the letter.
I'm just afraid that Korg is too arrogant, and won't take much notice of this.
Many thanks to everyone who is trying to do something about the OS update.

Liviou2004 · Post by **Liviou2004** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:42 am

Be this enhancement or another one, we've asked many things to Korg, along the years.
But the sad reality is : Korg absolutely don't care of customers, no-thing.
So the Kurt message is very kind and he did so great work on the Kronos. But I'm quite sure Korg will remain in its deaf attitude.

ITguy54 · Post by **ITguy54** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:02 am

exsequor699 wrote:Hello. Today Korg sale period ends. I am going to share a letter from mister Kurt Ader to the Korg team, from earlier this year. Sadly, its been a while since I purchase libraries because of the need of more Program banks.

"Dear KORG,
Thank you so much for the new update 3.14 that removes the limitation of EXs installation but it would be great if you continue to support your flagship users!
It would be great if you expand the dark mode and also the program banks like the Nautilus!
I know there is a cost involved but your KRONOS users will really thank you!
The majority of users would even be willing to pay for such an extensive update!
Please listen to us!!!!
All the best,
Kurt
KApro kurt ader productions"

From:Korg USA
To: Kurt Ader Productions
RE: yet another complaint

Dear Mr. Ader,
Thank you for being a customer and for your continued interest in our legacy products. But in these difficult times, our focus has to be on our current lineup. May I suggest you use your hard earned money and buy a Nautilus? We’ve made many enhancements to the design and you might find your needs met by giving us more money and buying more of our products.

Sincerely,
Korg USA

BlackForest · Post by **BlackForest** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:48 am

...KORG, seriously!? This guy was in a funny mood or what?

ChrisDuncan · Post by **ChrisDuncan** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 3:27 pm

ITguy54 wrote: Thank you for being a customer and for your continued interest in our legacy products.

I think this one line (emphasis mine) should be copied and pasted into every thread on the forum requesting enhancements. In just a few words it explains very clearly why there will never be any further Kronos (or Oasys, or Trton, or...) updates.

jerrythek · Post by **jerrythek** » Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:53 pm

You don't seriously believe that response was real, do you? Funny in a dark-humored mood for sure, but it's not real.

Jerry

dimitris · Post by **dimitris** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:52 pm

Hi Jerry!!!
So nice to "hear" you again after so many years!!!

Best Regards,
Dimitris

timg11 · Post by **timg11** » Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:22 pm

timg11 wrote:I posted a design concept for expanding program storage banks in 2015, which started a thread.

Dan at Korg chimed in, and argued against every suggestion and option that was offered for more program banks. Basically, his position was 1) expanding program banks would take memory away from sample storage, which he feels is more important. 2) He didn't think making expanded programs an optional mode (like Live vs Studio mute mode) would be practical.

Read the thread and see if I missed anything.

After his 2015 rebuttal of expanding program banks, it would be interesting to hear Dan at Korg's perspective on how the Nautilus is able to offer additional program banks, while still apparently subject to the 4G total RAM limit of the legacy 32 bit OS. Is the memory reclaimed by removing Karma equal to the memory size of the added program banks?

exsequor699 · Post by **exsequor699** » Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:44 am

timg11 wrote:
timg11 wrote:I posted a design concept for expanding program storage banks in 2015, which started a thread.

Dan at Korg chimed in, and argued against every suggestion and option that was offered for more program banks. Basically, his position was 1) expanding program banks would take memory away from sample storage, which he feels is more important. 2) He didn't think making expanded programs an optional mode (like Live vs Studio mute mode) would be practical.

Read the thread and see if I missed anything.
After his 2015 rebuttal of expanding program banks, it would be interesting to hear Dan at Korg's perspective on how the Nautilus is able to offer additional program banks, while still apparently subject to the 4G total RAM limit of the legacy 32 bit OS. Is the memory reclaimed by removing Karma equal to the memory size of the added program banks?

Agreed. In general, Korg’s response about these subjects is kind of disappointing.

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