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Selecting Keyboard set (Performance) via external midi contr
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 7:47 am
by tajna92
Hi,
I'm trying to work out if it's possible to send program change to Pa4x keyboard set (performance on older models) from external midi pads. I want to program my favorite 16 performances (one on each pad) in order to be able to recall them any time during live show by pushing the pad instead of searching trough the screen tabs.
I have controller capable of sending program change messages but can't work out how to find the numbers for keyboard sets entries...
Thanks
Re: Selecting Keyboard set (Performance) via external midi c
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 9:14 am
by siebenhirter
tajna92 wrote: .. to send program change to Pa4x keyboard set (performance on older models) from external midi pads. ... I have controller capable of sending program change messages but can't work out how to find the numbers for keyboard sets entries...
For remote selection number of keyboard sets you will find in manuals with CC#00, CC#32 and PrgChange.
With Pa4x Keyboard set Library will be found in manual page 1006 ff - user KbdSets of Pa4x use CC#00=17, CC#32=00-10 and PrgChange 00-47; DirectUser KbdSets use CC#00=18, CC#32=00-10 and PrgChange 00-47.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 9:15 am
by pa4x_user
If I have understood you correctly, whilst I don’t think you can select a keyboard set with midi, there is a workaround that would achieve what you want.
Setup various Songbook entries with suitable titles (eg. _Keyboard01, _Keyboard02, etc) and each of thos entries has the keyboard set you want.
Then program the external pads to send Song Select midi, as per p921 of the User Manual).
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 11:13 am
by pa4x_user
Well I was wrong about not being able select a keyboard set with midi.
Thanks Siebenherter
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:10 am
by tajna92
Thanks for the info. I have found it in the manual but now I have second problem. I use AKAI Mpd218 and I set MSB, LSB and PC on certain pad and I choose midi channel 16 as midi control channel on pa4x. Now, when I hit the pad with control data, pa4x is not responding, but when I hit any pad with note data, pa4x plays the corresponding note on given midi channel.
I'm suspecting there is a simple option that i need to enable on pa4x in order to receive and process the incoming data but I can't work it out on my own... I have midi in channel 16 set as Control channel.
Hopefully somebody with more knowledge will help me resolve this.
Thanks!
remote change of kbdset
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 11:48 am
by siebenhirter
Hello,
there is no additional option on Pa4x to receive incoming data - but maybe you filtered control messages in Midi-Input.
Else it certainly not will be the Pa4x that does not receive the commands, but the MPD218 that does not send the commands properly.
This easily can be controlled by sending the command chain cc # 00, cc # 32 and PrgChange to the Pa4x via another Midi controller or via Pc software (Midi-OX), or by checking via MIDI-OX to see which commands the MPD218 is sending on ch16.
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 1:53 pm
by tajna92
Hi,
I managed to make it work. Not sure what I did wrong initially but it works now, and I'm very happy.
I now can have 3 banks of 16 favorite keyboard sets just a touch away. It's just awesome!
Thanks guys for sharing your knowledge!