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Good afternoon to all.

I know this subject has been discussed before, but I've found some confussing information here and in other places, so I'd like to confirm which is the right information.

So, what I've understood is Pa4X and Pa4X OR are exactly the same machine, with same resources (styles, voices and so on...). But Oriental version includes more styles and voices (the oriental ones) in user memory.

No oriental resources are exactly the same in both machines.

Am I right? Is there something else to consider?

I'm interested in this subject 'cause in my country (Argentina), OR version is cheaper than normal one, and easier to find.

Another question is which speakers system you woud recomend, 'cause PaAs Speakes system is expensive and hard to find here as well.

Thank you very much for your time reading my post.

Regards,


Daniel

Go for the cheaper, they are same, but the Orientale version has more sounds dedicated to the Orientale music, and you still have all the RAM available (i.e. The extra sounds are stocked in the ROM)

Also, the Orientale version has it's own OS which is available at Korg.com

Daniel_ARG wrote:I'm interested in this subject 'cause in my country (Argentina),
OR version is cheaper than normal one, and easier to find.

As laurance said , ( Pa4X Oriental ) = ( Pa4X International + extra Rom samples + extra styles ) ,
so by definition if you have to choose one in the same cost , Oriental is the one way option !

Thank you very much for your comments. I'm sure now. I'll go for the Oriental.

Any suggestion about speakers?

Best regards and thank you again.


Daniel

Daniel_ARG wrote:.....................

Any suggestion about speakers?
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Daniel

Hi Daniel, what sort of speakers are you looking for. Just for monitoring at home or for Live work at gigs?

Just for monitoring at home or for Live work at gigs?

Stilli,

Mostly for my home, but not specially for monitoring. I'd Just like some options to expensive and hard to find (in my country) PaAs system.

Thank you!


Daniel

I am thinking to trade, in the future, my Pa4X 61keys International with a Pa4X Oriental 61 keys.
I heard some demo of Pa4X Oriental and I liked the ethnics sounds and styles.
No decision is taken so far but I have a question:

Is it possible to load and play correctly (means functions correctly) a customized SET (done in Pa4X International) into Pa4X Oriental?

Thanks for any info.

BR wrote:I am thinking to trade, in the future, my Pa4X 61keys International with a Pa4X Oriental 61 keys.
I heard some demo of Pa4X Oriental and I liked the ethnics sounds and styles.
No decision is taken so far but I have a question:

Is it possible to load and play correctly (means functions correctly) a customized SET (done in Pa4X International) into Pa4X Oriental?

Thanks for any info.

Both instruments are loading the same data so yes a set made on STD model will play exactly the same in ORT model!
It even works in the opposite direction too (ORT->STD) if no ORT resources have been used!

Hi Daniel_Arg:

About your request of a good amp, although i have a good PA, i test "a beast", not cheap but really fantastic and small, that you can use at home or on live situations.- The beast is SWR California Blonde II.- Originally this amp was designed for use with accoustic inst, like guitars & voice.- I've test with my Kronos, and blows my head.- Bass sounds are deep and clear, and as is a full range amp, mid and high frequences are well reproduced.-
I test a five years used one, but intact in power and construction.-
As i said it's not cheap, nearly U$S 2000, but it's powefull enough (200 wts), light weight (aprox. 27 kg), and really small (50 x 40 x 30 cm).-
Another option is what i have now, 2 FBT 10' + tweeter (500 wts. rms), and a sub Alto 18' (1000 wts.); in price is nearly the same, but much hardware to move (2 Supports for FBT), more wire (audio and power), and surely more heavy to transport.-
Hopping these helps you.-
With regards.
Eduardo

Hola Daniel_Arg:

Sobre tu consulta de buenos amplificadores, no obstante que poseo un PA, tuve la oportunidad de testear "la bestia", nada barato pero pequeño, poderoso, y apto tanto para el uso domiciliario como en vivo.-
La bestia de que te hablo es el SWR California Blonde II.-
Si bien este es un amp originalmente diseñado para instrumentos acusticos (guitarra & voces).- Lo testee con mi Kronos, y me voló la cabeza.- Los bajos son profundos, claros y sin distorsión alguna, y los medios y agudos, facilmente adaptables a la necesidad de cada matiz, al ser de rango extendido, practicamente no queda frecuencia en la que no se destaque.-
El que probé - de un amigo - es un equipo que ya tiene 5 años de uso, y si bien el es muy cuidadoso, el equipo muestra un solido estado de construcción y desempeño.- No es barato, ronda - si lo conseguis - los casi U$S 2000 ($ 31000 / 32000) si lo conseguis nuevo, y alrededor de $ 25000 en un usado.- El que yo probé está hecho en USA, pero se que tambien se fabrica en Mexico.-
Otra opción para que consideres, que no es mas económica pero de igual buen nivel, es lo que estoy usando actualmente: 2 FBT de 10 + tweeter (500 wts rms c/u) y un sub Alto 18 de 1000 wts.- Obviamente esto suena un poco más sobre todo para el vivo, pero tambien tiene mas peso, y además tenes que contar con soportes para los FBT, y mas cableado general.-
Espero te haya sido util esta info.-
Cordialmente
Eduardo

musiccankill wrote: ...It even works in the opposite direction too (ORT->STD) if no ORT resources have been used!

Thanks for the info.
Could you please explain how can I achieve this in my Pa4X international version (no ORT resources used in my Pa4X)?
Thanks.

BR wrote:

musiccankill wrote: ...It even works in the opposite direction too (ORT->STD) if no ORT resources have been used!

Thanks for the info.
Could you please explain how can I achieve this in my Pa4X international version (no ORT resources used in my Pa4X)?
Thanks.

Just save the set from pa4x oriental and load it on pa4x international!
if sounds/keyboard sets/styles use oriental only samples/multisamples ,these parts will of course not play in international model..

musiccankill wrote: Just save the set from pa4x oriental and load it on pa4x international!
if sounds/keyboard sets/styles use oriental only samples/multisamples ,these parts will of course not play in international model..

I had a doubt and I was thinking the same, so the SET (from Pa4X OR) wont load and play correctly in Pa4X standard. That was my question.
Thanks anyway.

BR wrote:

musiccankill wrote: Just save the set from pa4x oriental and load it on pa4x international!
if sounds/keyboard sets/styles use oriental only samples/multisamples ,these parts will of course not play in international model..

I had a doubt and I was thinking the same, so the SET (from Pa4X OR) wont load and play correctly in Pa4X standard. That was my question.
Thanks anyway.

If your custom set made on pa4x ORT DOESN'T use any of the ORT exclusive resources it will load and play exactly the same!

Eduardo_Arg wrote: Hola Daniel_Arg:

Sobre tu consulta de buenos amplificadores, ...

Gracias, Eduardo, por tus sugerencias. Un abrazo!!!!

Daniel