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Garageband ipad

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:08 pm
by Olaf
Dear all,

Is it possible to play along with the garageband tracks and recording the Kronos only simultaniously on an additional track in Garageband.
So far I have managed to record the Kronos including all other tracks on 1 new track in Garageband

Please advise

Thanks
Olaf

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:15 pm
by GregC

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:38 pm
by Olaf
I do not understand, please elaborate

I use the usb interface ( camara adaptor ) between the ipad and kronos
Steps:
- Play predefined garageband tracks through the Kronos.
- Play the Kronos
- The same time record the Kronos on an empty garageband track

Result is that indeed the Kronos sound has been recorded on the empty track, however including the predefined garageband tracks, because the were routed through the Kronos

I would like to separate the input from the output, I need to hear the input

Thanks
Olaf

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:03 pm
by GregC
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/22 ... 0&tstart=0

what others are saying is that GB is limited, its not a multi track Seq

Maybe someone expert can help you further.

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:41 pm
by amit
you'd have to play a bit with kronos connections and use "in track monitoring" on garageband (which has some latency)
however here's how to do that.

On Kronos:
Connect your speakers/monitors to outputs 1/2 or 3/4 instead of L/R

Go to Global audio settings and set the bus select to same as above for usb1/usb2

In Garageband:
Turn input monitoring on for your new track

Now you should be able to listen to garageband tracks and record your own audio track in garageband without them getting mixed.

If you don't want to use in-track monitoring you can connect a different set of speakers to L/R or just use a Post hardware Mixer (best option), with L/R and 1/2 stereo buses to it.
That is how I am setup, but mine L/R goes to my Audio Interface (PC DAW) and then to my mixer.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:10 pm
by Olaf
Thanks for your replies

I have tried to use an old mixer:
- ipad audio (Jack plug to the mixer)
- Ipad lighting camera kit to usb Kronos
- global audio settings usb1 and 2 to L/R and volume to zero
- audio Kronos out to mixer
- headphone to output mixer

This works however the quality of audio output (jack) from ipad is poor, maybe also due to a very noisy Behringer mixer

Using only the camara kit works best, high quality. However the track that I am recording is inclusive all audio input

I am NOT using midi, ONLY audio

Any other suggestions are welcome

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:56 pm
by amit
The method I posted above does not use ipad audio jack.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:01 pm
by Olaf
Hi Amit,

Then I did not understand your method, could you please explain again
Many thanks
Olaf

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:12 pm
by amit
See Kronos has 6 outputs (L,R,1,2,3,4) i.e. 3 stereo pairs (L/R,1/2 and 3/4)

So what you do is you Connect another pair (1/2 or 3/4) to the same mixer along with L\R that is already connected to it.

This way you bypass D/A conversion in iPad and use Kronos DAC.

After you have connected the outputs,go to kronos global settings > audio page and set USB bus select (top most option) to the pair you connected to mixer (1/2). This way all of the Ipad's output will go through kronos to it's outputs

and any sounds being generated on L/R will go directly to mixer as well as become input audio for ipad, that you will record on ipad itself,be it GarageBand, loopy HD or any-other multitrack recorder app.

Explanation:
Kronos is hard wired with USB in way that everything on L/R channels always goes to USB input (usb output of kronos).

Thus USB input if routed to L/R channel makes a round-trip and feeds back itself thus recording all audio being played on ipad.

When we route USB output iPad (kronos usb input ) to a different bus (1/2 or 3/4) we break the internal feedback/round-trip connection.
The iPad output goes through Kronos directly to another pair of outputs for the mixer,

What Kronos plays goes directly to mixer (through L/R) as well goes to iPad usb Input bus thus you being able to record that separately. Independent of whatever is playing on the iPad.
Hope it Helps.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:47 am
by Olaf
It works

Many thanks