2014 ELECTRIBE 2 - The positive thread !!!

DrHoo · Post by **DrHoo** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:14 pm

Re-Member wrote:I have question about the Event Recorder...

When you are playing back an event file, does the machine still send an analog "Sync Out" signal? Someone said that the event file won't send MIDI Out note data, but I'd still like to know if I can tempo sync all my analog gear to it. I also have a sync/midi clock converter, so it could work with my digital gear as well.

DrHoo, since you have the MS-20 Mini, could you test this out:

Connect a patch cable from the Electribe's "Sync Out" to the MS-20's "KBD TRIG IN." Next go and play event recorder file you have saved. If the Electribe starts triggering notes on the Mini, then that means it will work.

Thanks!

The result i got from going sync out to kb trig in... Just a drone from the ms20m, that's in patttern mode & in the event recorder. I plugged it into the ms20 external signal in too & there were red lights pulsing. I dont think the event recorder has any impact on the sync, i think it's just a simple digital recorder.

Just repeated the same thing again but patched through a volt/oct - hertz/volts box & yes, the keyboard is pulse triggering the selected key on the ms20.

Re-Member · Post by **Re-Member** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:08 am

Thanks for checking that. This is actually good news for me because I own the whole Volca series plus some other analog gear with clock triggered sequencers and arpeggios. Ideally, I want to use the new Electribe to as a master sequencer playing backing tracks with a few sounds I can tweak live, then tempo slave my other analog gear to it for more spur of the moment stuff.

jim555 · Post by **jim555** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:32 am

I plan to use this as a midi controller as well as sound module (Drums mostly).

How does the pad feel and how is the velocity sensitivity on these?

Do the pads send out all the midi notes when in chord mode? How about in scale mode?

What info can you send out with the XY pad? Can you use it to control hardware synths/effects parameters via midi cc# messages?

Thanks.

apapdop · Post by **apapdop** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:38 pm

roblabs wrote:We should probably start a new thread for this discussion on the volca keys, before we derail this any further. But certainly there's much room for using Volcas + electribe

Calling all Volca hedz...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7z9qst9goak

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:55 pm

apapdop wrote:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7z9qst9goak

Great find, apadop!

Now this is the type of stuff I plan to be doing when I first plug in my new Electribe!

This video is not an electribe set but still an amazing find...and really one electribe can do the work of all these Volca Hedz in the band. At least I believe I can pull this off lol!

Spheric El · Post by **Spheric El** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:31 pm

I liked that clip too.The difference between that clip and one of us on an E2 @SMK is there is 5 humans all ever evolving parts each, plus the extra (KP) effects.We can only edit one part a time with its synth controls and we are only interacting/reacting to our self.It will be a somewhat different result.
Did any one get the impression they're Krishna trancendental monks or was that just me?

apapdop · Post by **apapdop** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:44 pm

Spheric El wrote:I liked that clip too.The difference between that clip and one of us on an E2 @SMK is there is 5 humans all ever evolving parts each, plus the extra (KP) effects.We can only edit one part a time with its synth controls and we are only interacting/reacting to our self.It will be a somewhat different result.
Did any one get the impression they're Krishna trancendental monks or was that just me?

I want one of them orange jumpsuits. I listened to the whole set on cordless headphones whilst doing the chores today. I really enjoyed it, the way it ebbed and flowed from one idea to the next... fascinating.

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:45 pm

Spheric El wrote:I liked that clip too.The difference between that clip and one of us on an E2 @SMK is there is 5 humans all ever evolving parts each, plus the extra (KP) effects.We can only edit one part a time with its synth controls and we are only interacting/reacting to our self.It will be a somewhat different result...

I see this as a great challenge to pull off. Since this is a lot of the type of music I have been creating with my Kaoss set up, I can see how one person can pull this off solo like on the new tribe.

Besides I am pretty good at interacting with my self

Spheric El · Post by **Spheric El** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:03 am

Yes don't let me put you off,you may well be able to get style like that @SMK ,with an E2 and KPs.
I too like the Kaosspad and with a few linked, and some synths/decks it's nice to free style some never before thought of places. 'twas just an opinion of mine after initially watching that vid.Jus something about only bein able to edit one part at a time had me a little concerned and I'm still wondering about the insert FX one param restriction ,but then again -a KaOscillator with sequencer and Kong synth engine strapped on does seem like a no brainer.
There is a small part of me that's tempted to go for an Aturia Beatstep which is a quarter the price and has nice options like random seq and forward/reverse.

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:08 pm

Spheric El wrote:Yes don't let me put you off,you may well be able to get style like that @SMK ,with an E2 and KPs.
I too like the Kaosspad and with a few linked, and some synths/decks it's nice to free style some never before thought of places. 'twas just an opinion of mine after initially watching that vid.Jus something about only bein able to edit one part at a time had me a little concerned and I'm still wondering about the insert FX one param restriction ,but then again -a KaOscillator with sequencer and Kong synth engine strapped on does seem like a no brainer.
There is a small part of me that's tempted to go for an Aturia Beatstep which is a quarter the price and has nice options like random seq and forward/reverse.

What Aturia has put out is quite impressive. I like the beat step and how it has extra pots but it's just a controller and there you have to have a laptop.

I probably sound a bit over confident but considering that my process has been:
{ make the melody on box 1 }
{ sample on box 3 with effects from box 2 }
{ repeat 3 more times }

with the inclusion of
{ use box 4 to sequence beat / drum samples on box 5 }

and maybe I'll add a volca keys to play looping analog computer sounds
{ box 6 }

When you look at this "war plan" I am only getting up to 5 voices plus a 4-8 part drum loop. One can quickly see if I am managing so many pieces of gear (and most of us are doing this) I might have a good chance of doing all of this in one box with the Electribe 2 (actually anyone can do this).

What is neat about the Electribe 2 is that the freedom to work in any way you want (including with a computer) is available to you. MOst video show the process of having a few pre-created 4 bar beat and melody pieces that thanks to instant muting, you can create the illusion of doing a longer improvisational set.

But if you treat each "part" as it's own separate synth instrument then what you really have is instant access to 16 boxes you didn't have to lug around with you, nor take on the risk of a laptop or iPad. If you have drum parts then at the very least takes 4 pads as one instrument box.

Anyhow, this gives you an idea of how I am thinking and how I am planning.

sauce · Post by **sauce** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:08 pm

SMK wrote:I like the beat step and how it has extra pots but it's just a controller and there you have to have a laptop.

It is a controller, yes, but it's also a standalone sequencer for sequencing external gear.

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:35 pm

sauce wrote:
It is a controller, yes, but it's also a standalone sequencer for sequencing external gear.

It's brilliant and cheap, and it can control all kinds of gear - but it's just a mono sequencer, so it's best for looping 303-style monosynth sequences. So if you want to control a drum machine and have a hi-hat and kick on the same step, you're out of luck.

The electribe is kind of like having a poly Beatstep that can control 16 tracks.
Plus an paraphonic internal synth engine with part-independent effects and audio input.
Plus a huge internal PCM drum library.
Plus a Kaoss Pad.
With the ability to export stems into a DAW on a SD card.
With plenty of knobs, a metal case, and undercarriage lighting.

It pretty much blows the beatstep to smithereens, except the beatstep is very inexpensive and can output CV. I'd consider a new electribe for almost any beatstep task unless I was a eurorack guy who didn't believe in MIDI and didn't have a converter in his rack.

Spheric El · Post by **Spheric El** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:12 pm

Yes (fair point Ted3000) it does boast a lot of bang for buck ,but I like the Beatstep random notes/reverse and note mutes,plus the tweak-able note knobs .I can't wait to hear these new owners of E2 to report on it (and its seq use with other stuff)as it ripples around the globe.That note tie will be nice if it works amongst its many other bits. I'm still wondering about limited synth edit options- but it's a lot more than a KO and they were good soo..
Maybe get both, an E2 and Beatstep.

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:56 am

Spheric El wrote: Maybe get both, an E2 and Beatstep.

Now that's a smart move!

See, I will be paring my Electribe 2 with a Quneo.

darenager · Post by **darenager** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:54 am

Got my electribe yesterday, aside from a few bugs I am pretty happy with it, personally I think the drum sounds are the weakest part, I think it is a machine that if you explore and learn then it will pay off. I still have my emx, its a classic, and I see no reason why the new one won't be either.