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Better borrow 120k, invest in a REIT (12 to 18% dividends) and after paying tax (say 40% depending on income, AGI), hire a boat now and then as needed.StephenKay wrote:You can get a $120k boat with only $4k down (about 3%) ?GregC wrote:I could put $4000 down on a nice $120,000 boat
The above mentioned workflow ist still a PITA. You still have to record each and every part, measure, chorus etc. of your song individually. How crazy is that? I don´t own a Montage, but I tested its recorder at Superbooth in Berlin in April and later at Music Store, Cologne, Germany. The inability to copy MIDI data--not even within the same track (!)--makes the Montage useless as a basic standalone production tool. We are talking about laughable MIDI data, not huge audio wave files. Remember: Yamaha is the parent company of Steinberg. My guess is they want Montage users to purchase the full-blown Cubase version later also. What if Montage users don´t want to use a DAW? Should they be forced to buy or use outboard gear in order to utilize a feature that is on a 3000 Euro keyboard? From what I read at Motifator they lost every loyal Motif user in a nanosecond, myself included. Having said all of that, they can win me back with a recorder update.I found a fun workaround to make this recorder behave like a multitimbral sequencer. First of all, I programmed several sounds within one Performance: Piano, strings, bass, drums and clavinet. Then, I switched off all Keyboard Control (the green buttons in the main screen) so they all became separately available using Part Control (the orange buttons on the right). I opened the midi recorder, and recorded the piano. Then I put the recorder in Overdub and added the strings, bass, drums etc. until I had a multitrack recording. Actually pretty simple. Before all this, I imported a vocal sample wav from Diana Ross's Upside Down and prepared a Performance with only this sample. So, at the end of my recording session I basically triggered this Diana Ross sample from the keyboard, in time with the recorded music. All pretty simple but quite effective, and obviously discussion material!
I can't think of any way you'd be able to copy your Yamaha Montage sounds into a Roland Fantom G6 other than sampling the sound created on the Montage and then importing the sample into your Fantom. But the resulting sound will not have the player controls that you have on the Montage.eli125 wrote:can i use my yamaha montage sounds into roland fantom G6 ?
This is the biggest reason I hesitate to buy a Montage. Unfortunately, as fundamental as this function is, it gets buried in the mountain of misc. feature requests from everyone on the Yamaha forum. As for the Yamaha rep, it's kind of strange how when people say anything critical of the Montage he takes a defensive stance and tells them there is something wrong with the way they are working. It makes me wonder if any complaints like this MIDI behavior ever get past him and reach Yamaha.SanderXpander wrote:You can have 16 midi channels in multi mode but every "part" is then fixed to its corresponding midi channel number. So part 1 is channel 1, part 2 is channel 2 etc.
As limiting as this is it wouldn't even be so awful if basic sounds like the main piano sound didn't consist of four parts. So you can't buy a 61 key Montage and play the piano from an 88 key controller while using all the wonderful gizmos for a synth sound on top. Not only that, but in the link the Yamaha rep insists that this is normal behavior for any midi device (contrary to all Montage predecessors they have created) and that you need to really be playing on the Montage keyboard to really understand and enjoy what it's about (as if that somehow affects playing a piano patch).
