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johnxyz wrote:Roland U20

Not had a new Roland since.

If you changed a program within a combi (or whatever it was called), then that program changed across the whole synth.....or something like that.
It was so irritating....can anyone remind of the exact defficiency? I'm dying to remember?!

I was thinking of going back to a new Roland (G series)... is their 'combi' setup like Korg's now?
john

Strange because that's how Korg works and what most people like. If you improve a program, you only have to do it once.

No, it wasnt like that - i cant recall exactly the issue. Only that it drove me mad.

I seem to recall a V Synth GT review in SOS - and the reviewer picked up on the problem with the GT. Tone sharing or something...

The GT gives you the option to write those sounds into new locations if you wish or overwriting existing ones which if you do any other patch that uses them will be altered.

I don't know why Roland didn't stick to there own JP8000 method where the performance and patch mode have there own set of editing buffers meaning you never screw up any existing patch by altering a Patch within a performance if you overwrite the ones in the performance mode they are written into that performance and any edits you do don't alter the same patches that might be used in other performance locations

you can then choose to overwrite it as a patch if you wanted to use it in another performance

michelkeijzers wrote:For me it's the Kawai K4. A that time it was my first synth and I couldn't afford the Korg M1 (which was at that time the Korg 'main' model, together with the Yamaha SY22 (in that price range)).

I sold the Kawai K4 to get a price reduction for the Korg X5. The owner of the shop had quite a hard time to sell it.

Although the Kawai K4 is not that a bad synth, for acoustic sounds it was not good (but I didn't know much about synths at that time). I did two auditions back then where they liked my play, but were not really 'amused' with my gear.

I so loved my K4 had some real nice Synth sounds ( takes me back lol )

bigrobuk wrote:

michelkeijzers wrote:For me it's the Kawai K4. A that time it was my first synth and I couldn't afford the Korg M1 (which was at that time the Korg 'main' model, together with the Yamaha SY22 (in that price range)).

I sold the Kawai K4 to get a price reduction for the Korg X5. The owner of the shop had quite a hard time to sell it.

Although the Kawai K4 is not that a bad synth, for acoustic sounds it was not good (but I didn't know much about synths at that time). I did two auditions back then where they liked my play, but were not really 'amused' with my gear.

I so loved my K4 had some real nice Synth sounds ( takes me back lol )

Yes it has some nice sounds (for that time), but compared to the M1 it was not that good (but it also was 25% more expensive). As the only synth it was too limited.

michelkeijzers wrote:

bigrobuk wrote:

michelkeijzers wrote:For me it's the Kawai K4. A that time it was my first synth and I couldn't afford the Korg M1 (which was at that time the Korg 'main' model, together with the Yamaha SY22 (in that price range)).

I sold the Kawai K4 to get a price reduction for the Korg X5. The owner of the shop had quite a hard time to sell it.

Although the Kawai K4 is not that a bad synth, for acoustic sounds it was not good (but I didn't know much about synths at that time). I did two auditions back then where they liked my play, but were not really 'amused' with my gear.

I so loved my K4 had some real nice Synth sounds ( takes me back lol )

Yes it has some nice sounds (for that time), but compared to the M1 it was not that good (but it also was 25% more expensive). As the only synth it was too limited.

True true, and I still have my M1 and not my K4 which tells a story

and I had a Juno 6 which I was sad to lose it was a nice unit.

DX11 I was failry happy to sell. I think it was only 8 note polly lol

and my Yamaha EMT10 I think it was only had like 8 sounds lol

them was the days

bigrobuk wrote:

michelkeijzers wrote:

bigrobuk wrote: I so loved my K4 had some real nice Synth sounds ( takes me back lol )

Yes it has some nice sounds (for that time), but compared to the M1 it was not that good (but it also was 25% more expensive). As the only synth it was too limited.

True true, and I still have my M1 and not my K4 which tells a story

and I had a Juno 6 which I was sad to lose it was a nice unit.

DX11 I was failry happy to sell. I think it was only 8 note polly lol

and my Yamaha EMT10 I think it was only had like 8 sounds lol

them was the days

Yes probably the Kawai K4 was the one I knew best, since it was my first I had learned sound synthesis on this synth. Also because the sounds were so bad it needed a lot of tweaking ... in comparison with my Kronos which I only did very basic modifications (for programs).

But I have good memories of USING the K4, not exactly the K4 itself. My first gig was with a K4, but after some time I did an audition and the first they asked after playing: you are going to buy a new synth when you join?

michelkeijzers wrote:But I have good memories of USING the K4, not exactly the K4 itself. My first gig was with a K4, but after some time I did an audition and the first they asked after playing: you are going to buy a new synth when you join?

LOL THAT IS FUNNY

my 1st gig was with a Casio I don't even know what model and the sound was just pure cheese, it was the most entry level of entry level full size keys lol

bigrobuk wrote:

michelkeijzers wrote:But I have good memories of USING the K4, not exactly the K4 itself. My first gig was with a K4, but after some time I did an audition and the first they asked after playing: you are going to buy a new synth when you join?

LOL THAT IS FUNNY

my 1st gig was with a Casio I don't even know what model and the sound was just pure cheese, it was the most entry level of entry level full size keys lol

Yes the first gig is always nice, independent of what synth you use. However probably about the same for everyone, after some time you start to learn the capabilities of a synth and you can better judge what you have (or miss).

[quote="Kontrol49"]The GT gives you the option to write those sounds into new locations if you wish or overwriting existing ones which if you do any other patch that uses them will be altered.



So how many user patch locations are there on the GT.

Cant think why i wouldnt have just written changes into a new patch on the old U20.

Does the Fantom G use this system also?

john

The only kybd I was glad to get rid of was a Kurzweil K2500. It had some nice features but the weighted kybd drove my tendonitis crazy. I didn't put in a lot of hours playing it in the 1st 30 days when I could've returned it so wound up taking a big bath when I sold it used.

Kawai K4 Also Korg Poly 800( poly 800 was my first synth I really wanted a JUNO 106)

jjhcw wrote:Kawai K4 Also Korg Poly 800( poly 800 was my first synth I really wanted a JUNO 106)

My first synth was a Kawai K4 and it was really not that good (but a lot cheaper than a Korg M1 which I couldn't afford at that time). I have done two auditions which I got complaints about the K4:
- first one: you're a nice player, but you really need to change your gear
- second one: if you play with us you can take over our former keyboard players' gear (which was a Roland) ... btw, didn't do that (bought a Korg instead).

runningman67 wrote:Never loved the Korg O1 w.

I had the Korg T3 before it and loved the warmth . The 01 w just ever did it for me. The Trinty was better and the Triton Studio, despite its lack of warmth, was an excellent work station.

The Kronos, after 3 demo plays is another level. Several levels!

Heresy!!!!!

The 01/W is my favorite board of all time!!! I made the huge mistake of selling my original one, and overcompensated by buying 2 of them lol.

T3 is a nice board, but to me it was just an M1 with more trumpet and special FX sounds.

Recently had a chance to get a T2, but I passed on it. The only sounds I constantly used from the M1 were the M1 Piano (Patch 01) and the M1 E. Piano (Patch 11).


Keyboards I'm glad I sold?

Korg Triton. Only bought it for it's sampling capability, and it was primitive compared to what I have now.

Keyboard I'm glad I sold? Didn't sell it, actually. I gave my decrepit old piano to a local charity group who took 14lb sledge hammers to it to raise funds for some youth centre improvements. At least the old girl died with some honour.