Believe I Just Saw Korgs Big Announcement..I need answers

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:31 pm

As i said in another post, Kronos and M3 owners dont get scared, this has
NOTHING to do with M3, it is a beefed up M-50 synth, its not HD-1.
I dont think it would be compatible with Kronos at all.

Dany · Post by **Dany** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:33 pm

bousfieldj · Post by **bousfieldj** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:34 pm

UK has some prices posted

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2012/09/ ... rkstation/

blinkofanI · Post by **blinkofanI** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:50 pm

I don't use the internal sequencer, but if i was, i would be out of myself right now. It's the second time Korg does this to their users, bringing an inferior workstation with better sequencer built-in. I can't believe Korg is doing it again.

At this point they should just come out and say it straight into our eyes that the Kronos/Oasys platform will never have a decent sequencer and that you can't have state of the art synth engine AND sequencer inside a Korg workstation. When producing such instruments, they should just not call them workstations. Just call them synthesizers and everybody would be happy and the users wouldn't have expectations.

Blink

tmatos75 · Post by **tmatos75** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:52 pm

BasariStudios wrote:Krome PC Editor:

Wow, now all I need to do is figure out how to run mac programs on my pc and I'll be all set!
thanks for the accurate info, Basari.

Sparker · Post by **Sparker** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:01 pm

It would be nice to get that 'Piano Roll Event Edit' in the next Kronos update/editor.

I note there's no KARMA, with a return to old style Dual ARP's ...

music_avijeet · Post by **music_avijeet** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:06 pm

Isn't this a direct competition to Yamaha's MOX6/8?

Pricing seems about that.

drama1 · Post by **drama1** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:15 pm

Hey, I hope this is a huge success for Korg, if nothing else so they keep on creating wonderful instruments. BUT, as an M3 owner loaded with the Radias exp. and extra RAM, asided from the huge piano samples, without karma and at least one VA, this is a no go for me. I use karma for SST, works great and the Radias exp. just screams where no pcm based samples can. What I am a little jelous about is the lightweight of the 88 keyboard. 33lbs. Not bad. Hell, my M3-73 semiweighted weighs more than that. Way to go Korg.

Francois · Post by **Francois** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:25 pm

KROME looks like a Kronos Le with the M3 sequencer.

As for the name, KRONOS Mini Edition ?

Davidb · Post by **Davidb** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:40 pm

blinkofanI wrote: It's the second time Korg does this to their users, bringing an inferior workstation with better sequencer built-in.
I can't believe Korg is doing it again.

At this point they should just come out and say it straight into our eyes that the Kronos/Oasys platform will never have a decent sequencer and that you can't have state of the art synth engine AND sequencer inside a Korg workstation. When producing such instruments, they should just not call them workstations. Just call them synthesizers and everybody would be happy and the users wouldn't have expectations.

Blink

Perfectly spotted, Blink.

At this point it is perfectly clear what Korg is after, and that, if at this stage Kronos does not have a better Sequencer with better GUI alongside their better engines, its because they dont want it to.

Smart move? I doubt it.

We´ve seem the same with the OASYS and M3 series. Here is, with Korme, the last evidence, we do not need any more. Period.

neomad · Post by **neomad** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:48 pm

Davidb wrote:
blinkofanI wrote: It's the second time Korg does this to their users, bringing an inferior workstation with better sequencer built-in.
I can't believe Korg is doing it again.

At this point they should just come out and say it straight into our eyes that the Kronos/Oasys platform will never have a decent sequencer and that you can't have state of the art synth engine AND sequencer inside a Korg workstation. When producing such instruments, they should just not call them workstations. Just call them synthesizers and everybody would be happy and the users wouldn't have expectations.

Blink
Perfectly spotted, Blink.

At this point it is perfectly clear what Korg is after, and that, if at this stage Kronos does not have a better Sequencer with better GUI alongside their better engines, its because they dont want it to. Period.

We´ve seem the same wit the OASYS and M3 series. Here is, with Korme, the last evidence, we do not need any more.
Period.

+1

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:58 pm

blinkofanI wrote:I don't use the internal sequencer, but if i was, i would be out of myself right now. It's the second time Korg does this to their users, bringing an inferior workstation with better sequencer built-in. I can't believe Korg is doing it again.

At this point they should just come out and say it straight into our eyes that the Kronos/Oasys platform will never have a decent sequencer and that you can't have state of the art synth engine AND sequencer inside a Korg workstation. When producing such instruments, they should just not call them workstations. Just call them synthesizers and everybody would be happy and the users wouldn't have expectations.

Blink

If I understand what you are saying, you are stating that an up to date sequencer 'makes ' a workstation and lack of same ' breaks' that workstation

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:11 pm

GregC wrote:
blinkofanI wrote:I don't use the internal sequencer, but if i was, i would be out of myself right now. It's the second time Korg does this to their users, bringing an inferior workstation with better sequencer built-in. I can't believe Korg is doing it again.

At this point they should just come out and say it straight into our eyes that the Kronos/Oasys platform will never have a decent sequencer and that you can't have state of the art synth engine AND sequencer inside a Korg workstation. When producing such instruments, they should just not call them workstations. Just call them synthesizers and everybody would be happy and the users wouldn't have expectations.

Blink
If I understand what you are saying, you are stating that an up to date sequencer 'makes ' a workstation and lack of same ' breaks' that workstation

I don't think you'd get much argument against that. The definition of "workstation" has traditionally been a synth section combined with a sequencer. The workstation definition becomes a lot harder to maintain when one part of that marriage is so clearly undervalued on the developing end. To be honest I never use the sequencer anyway so I don't mind too much. But I think it's clear from those that need the sequencer regularly it's massively underpowered compared to the competition.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:22 pm

SanderXpander wrote:
GregC wrote:
blinkofanI wrote:I don't use the internal sequencer, but if i was, i would be out of myself right now. It's the second time Korg does this to their users, bringing an inferior workstation with better sequencer built-in. I can't believe Korg is doing it again.

At this point they should just come out and say it straight into our eyes that the Kronos/Oasys platform will never have a decent sequencer and that you can't have state of the art synth engine AND sequencer inside a Korg workstation. When producing such instruments, they should just not call them workstations. Just call them synthesizers and everybody would be happy and the users wouldn't have expectations.

Blink
If I understand what you are saying, you are stating that an up to date sequencer 'makes ' a workstation and lack of same ' breaks' that workstation
I don't think you'd get much argument against that. The definition of "workstation" has traditionally been a synth section combined with a sequencer. The workstation definition becomes a lot harder to maintain when one part of that marriage is so clearly undervalued on the developing end. To be honest I never use the sequencer anyway so I don't mind too much. But I think it's clear from those that need the sequencer regularly it's massively underpowered compared to the competition.

I also think that Korg would much prefer to give Kronos owners an up to date sequencer. There are likely some major obstacles in doing so with the Kronos, that have yet to be solved.

So its not some evil marketing scheme to let the Krome have the up to date sequencer and the Kronos owners have a sequencer that is less powerful.

Scatter · Post by **Scatter** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:30 pm

Davidb wrote:
blinkofanI wrote: It's the second time Korg does this to their users, bringing an inferior workstation with better sequencer built-in.
I can't believe Korg is doing it again.

At this point they should just come out and say it straight into our eyes that the Kronos/Oasys platform will never have a decent sequencer and that you can't have state of the art synth engine AND sequencer inside a Korg workstation. When producing such instruments, they should just not call them workstations. Just call them synthesizers and everybody would be happy and the users wouldn't have expectations.

Blink
Perfectly spotted, Blink.

At this point it is perfectly clear what Korg is after, and that, if at this stage Kronos does not have a better Sequencer with better GUI alongside their better engines, its because they dont want it to.

Smart move? I doubt it.

We´ve seem the same with the OASYS and M3 series. Here is, with Korme, the last evidence, we do not need any more. Period.

The Kronos is built from the Oasys code hence the same limited seq, this crappy new rompler is from the newer M3/M50 code so it has those enhancments. I doubt there is anything malicious in this by Korg, just a lack of manpower.

What does bother me is the 73-key Synth action; I wanted this on the Kronos.