Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:58 pm
Can someone comment on the build quality of the RH3 keys? how do they feel and respond? how do they compare with other RH3 keyboards like the M50-88, M3-88, and SV1? Thanks for your comments.
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Good point. Most of the R&D was done 10 years ago when Korg made the OASYS PCI card and the Z1. The total price of hardware should be under $600-700 at most. I don't see how spending $40-50 on high quality knobs and slides could undermined Korg's profitability.Cut costs from WHAT exactly? MOST of the R&D was already DONE. They added two engines, made a few OS enhancements, and decided enough time has passed to trickle down the cost to regular people without pissing OASYS owners off too much.
It isRonF wrote:But the Hummer is DESIGNED for off-road. The Porsche is not.
what do you mean the "underneath keyboard plastic?" and is the ribbon any different from the other Korg workstations?sparkie wrote:My biggest beef is that the touchscreen isnt angled correctly to meet your eye. The data wheel problem is being solved... If you play live the end caps will definitely get scratched and be really noticable since it is gloss. Although they look really good along with the brushed metal silver...which I really like.
The underneath keyboard plastic on mine is not loose..but lets just say a little flemsy. I would prefer the knob pots to be a little easier to turn. Sliders also too tight. I would also prefer a few more buttons instead of using mainly the screen. Vector joystick is toy cheap. Nice RIbbon controller..
The gray plastic 3/4 bar underneath the keys that some were saying made squeaking noise. And the ribbon on this is much better than the M3 I had.. or maybe my M3 was not working correct?Gargamel314 wrote:what do you mean the "underneath keyboard plastic?" and is the ribbon any different from the other Korg workstations?sparkie wrote:My biggest beef is that the touchscreen isnt angled correctly to meet your eye. The data wheel problem is being solved... If you play live the end caps will definitely get scratched and be really noticable since it is gloss. Although they look really good along with the brushed metal silver...which I really like.
The underneath keyboard plastic on mine is not loose..but lets just say a little flemsy. I would prefer the knob pots to be a little easier to turn. Sliders also too tight. I would also prefer a few more buttons instead of using mainly the screen. Vector joystick is toy cheap. Nice RIbbon controller..
This statement is widely repeated and completely wrong. OASYS PCI was a hardware-based synth architecture. Very little of that NRE carried forward into the OASYS workstation. Concerning the workstation NRE, I think that's more up for grabs, but I think that people are (a) grossly under-estimating the cost of re-engineering for multiprocessing and (b) grossly over-estimating the team size.Chriskk wrote:Most of the R&D was done 10 years ago when Korg made the OASYS PCI card and the Z1. The total price of hardware should be under $600-700 at most. I don't see how spending $40-50 on high quality knobs and slides could undermined Korg's profitability.
As I have lived in Japan for 15 years now...I know first hand about the devastation caused by the earthquake and tsunami. It negatively impacted me and my family. But these events did not have anything to do with poorly designed knobs....shap wrote: End of hijack, with apologies. I've seen a lot of bitching without perspective, and I finally hit tilt. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread topic.
Why are they poorly designed? FWIW....mine is not poorly designed....it just works. Its not "Design"....its "Quality Control" deficiencies from the factory....which may in fact have underlying causes which stem from the natural disasters. You pick the best built most durable keyboard you can think of....I guarantee you that a certain percentage of THOSE products had QC deficiencies out of the box. And to THOSE buyers....the build quality of THAT keyboard was poor as heck. Its all perspective from your individual user experience. But its really too early (both in time and reliable statistics) to rate the QC fall-out or the durability of the KRONOS. A fully "on-par" unit from the factory, without any deficiencies, has excellent build quality. It just works as designed.jahrome wrote:As I have lived in Japan for 15 years now...I know first hand about the devastation caused by the earthquake and tsunami. It negatively impacted me and my family. But these events did not have anything to do with poorly designed knobs....shap wrote: End of hijack, with apologies. I've seen a lot of bitching without perspective, and I finally hit tilt. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread topic.
You are completely right but there is one problem arising from there:RonF wrote:You pick the best built most durable keyboard you can think of....I guarantee you that a certain percentage of THOSE products had QC deficiencies out of the box. And to THOSE buyers....the build quality of THAT keyboard was poor as heck.
Not sure I follow your logic, with all due respect. Do we KNOW that whatever QC deficiencies which have already been distributed by KORG were the result of "first run" or a "rush" to deliver? Do we even KNOW that the percentage of QC deficiencies exceeds in any meaningful way the norm for such products, or is in any way worse than, say, a Yamaha Motif XF or Roland Fantom G? Do we therefore have any way to know that if you waited and purchased a unit in 6 months time that you would have any better odds of getting a perfect unit vs. a deficient one? Has KORG indicated, directly to you, any type of 'screw you' position in your customer support requests? I would expect KORG to repair or replace, under warranty (a legal agreement with the consumer), any legitimate deficiency....can't believe for a moment that they won't.Why would i pay 3000 and get a screwed up
machine while you a month later for the same money or probably cheaper
get a perfect machine?