2014 ELECTRIBE 2 - The positive thread !!!

Glitchcraft · Post by **Glitchcraft** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:02 am

Wow some of you kids really need to learn synthesis...really some of the comments are just absurd and I realize why you guys think my suggestions are not needed.

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:05 am

DrHoo wrote:
The gate time is a completely different area, it refers to the length of a note. The x/y pad has two functions in this area, one is the gate time of the note, from bottom to the top of the pad increasing the gate time of the note. the other way, left to right in theory is the speed/frequency of the notes.

Ah that's exactly what I was looking for. The Kaossilator Pro does the same thing. It's a really cool feature for those who are not used to how this would work.

Now I would be interested how the recorded beat and synth structures of this translates over to the pads in step mode. Like for example if you make a beat in this fashion on the kaoss pad and then switch over to the touch pads in step mode to edit out steps that you may not have wanted or add steps to what you created with the kaoss pad.

Anyhow, at least we have that feature and would explain the "locked" quantize function Glitchcraft is referring to.

sauce · Post by **sauce** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:09 am

Spheric El wrote:I think "no quantisation" and "no way to turn Q off" add up to the same thing ,it's just a case of semantics.

Actually it's global quantization, and there is no other option.

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:33 am

sauce wrote:
Spheric El wrote:I think "no quantisation" and "no way to turn Q off" add up to the same thing ,it's just a case of semantics.
Actually it's global quantization, and there is no other option.

Yeah I looked to see if there was a global setting for it change quantize settings...nope. But like DrHoo said, this is how electribes have been.

I am just happy with the fact that the Kaoss pad will handle the timing and speed for the arp gate. that is such a relief.

wasstof · Post by **wasstof** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:26 am

DrHoo, thankyou for starting this thread, I was starting to worry I'd ordered a Turkey for Christmas but all the positive comments here have filled me once more with hope and enthusiasm...

DrHoo · Post by **DrHoo** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:01 am

In the end it's a simple question of weather you/anyone wants one of these or not ! I've had my gripes, projected my negatives & all that but this box, it is what it is !

I distictly remember my previous electribes being far from standalone production units, i always used outboard gear to compliment them. This current tribe, it's a very accessable & useful synthesizer with multiple step sequencing on board plus extra features. For what i paid for it (Over the rrp at £400 to get an early one) i think there's a lot of stuff for the price.

Tom 62 · Post by **Tom 62** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:58 am

DrHoo wrote:This current tribe, it's a very accessable & useful synthesizer with multiple step sequencing on board plus extra features. For what i paid for it (Over the rrp at £400 to get an early one) i think there's a lot of stuff for the price.

I also think the price/performance ratio is great. All my iPhone synths are waiting to be controlled from the Electribe Sampler

bram2000 · Post by **bram2000** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:15 pm

DrHoo wrote:What the other guy is saying really is that the tribe is locked in quantization by default, you can't switch it off but then all tribes were like that. You can however manually move notes via step edit & that shifts individual notes out of time/quantization.

This has got me interested...

If I'm understanding correctly you are saying that recording notes into the sequencer by hitting the pads will always be quantised, but you can manually nudge notes once they are in the sequencer to move them off the grid? How do you do this?

If that's true it would be music to my ears. Polyrhythms and off-grid note placement were the two things I seriously missed when details started emerging from the first wave of users, but it sounds like they are both in there.

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:38 pm

bram2000 wrote: This has got me interested...

If I'm understanding correctly you are saying that recording notes into the sequencer by hitting the pads will always be quantised, but you can manually nudge notes once they are in the sequencer to move them off the grid? How do you do this?

If that's true it would be music to my ears. Polyrhythms and off-grid note placement were the two things I seriously missed when details started emerging from the first wave of users, but it sounds like they are both in there.

I still don't think you can "nudge" things off grid. The sequencer has a beat resolution of 32nd notes, and I think it defaults to 16 notes per bar in step mode. (each of the 16 pads is a beat, just like the EMX/ESX.)

32nd notes are pretty fast in a quick tempo. They're as fast as a snare roll. It should be possible to work in that grid to do almost everything, except maybe create beats that sound like a sloppy schoolkid's first drum lesson. That's a fine streamline to me.

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:17 pm

when he says nudge things, he literally means if you record a drum on the 1st beat, you can shift it to the 2nd, or 16th, etc. (as has been with all electribes)

Olivander12 · Post by **Olivander12** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:05 pm

Am I the only one seeing no sense in this no-quantize-debate? It is a step sequencer, why should it be possible to place notes off the steps?

apapdop · Post by **apapdop** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:32 pm

Olivander12 wrote:Am I the only one seeing no sense in this no-quantize-debate? It is a step sequencer, why should it be possible to place notes off the steps?

I'm with you. Where else are they going to go? I understand what swing does, but that is not the same thing as "switching quantise off"....

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:45 pm

Its definitely doable. On the Volca Keys, you can do this with Flux mode. Essentially, its like the step sequencer is removed and the pattern becomes a loop mode for however many bars you set. It records exactly as you play, so nothing is locked into steps.

sauce · Post by **sauce** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:48 pm

Olivander12 wrote:Am I the only one seeing no sense in this no-quantize-debate? It is a step sequencer, why should it be possible to place notes off the steps?

Well it's also a real-time-recording sequencer, so many users, especially those with no background with an Electribe, want to believe that natural time is possible. It's not possible. At all. Not a debate really, as the feature has never existed in an Electribe..

Which is also why longtime Electribe users are a bit confused, as this is one of the most desired features in a new Electribe. Not for myself, really; I don't need it, but I can understand the frustration of some users.

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:50 pm

maybe the groove templates help give a natural time? still waiting for someone, anyone, to demo this...