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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:29 am
by burningbusch
Here's one example done by KAYFYR showing 70 tracks in Presonus One. Yes, like everyone else he uses a DAW and like everyone else he uses soft synths.

http://youtu.be/zz8q_5EQL1Q

You want to do this on a hardware workstation, be my guest. Why? What's the point? You want to incorporate some of the sounds from a workstation or other hardware synth, that makes sense.

Chasing EDM styles makes little sense for hardware manufacturers. By the time you bring it to market, the sounds are passé, clichés.

Busch.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:08 am
by danmusician
burningbusch wrote:Chasing EDM styles makes little sense for hardware manufacturers. By the time you bring it to market, the sounds are passé, clichés.

Busch.
+1

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:36 am
by JPWC
The Kronos is a fine instrument. Most of all, for the reasons on many people's wish list. Music is partially a physical experience, that is why doing everything in the box loses it's appeal after a while.

The limitations and constraints of an instrument is what gives us performers something to work with. Art comes out of the artist working at the edges of the capabilities of their instruments. And much like painting, once you add too many colors, you end up with black.

If anything the Kronos is too much instrument in one box. So many features and functions, you can't play with them all in a performance.

I want more instruments, all different, with difference features and capabilities. This allows me more choices, more diversity in my sound pallet and more options in production.

If you can't produce your music on a Kronos, (EDM or Country), the problem is more likely the performer not the instrument.

From my prospective Korg is doing all right, developing new options in synthesizers all the time. From Workstations to Kits to Toys; producing different responses from the performer.

The best thing Korg did for the Kronos, was bring back analog synths.

With all that said, I'd buy a Kronos II or III or.........anything I could afford.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:37 am
by SanderXpander
I don't mind suggestions or discussion about updates. As Michel said, everybody has their private lists. Korg has even listened to us in some cases, which is amazing, especially since this forum isn't actually an official line of communication with them.

I just can't stand the ridiculous tone and rigidity of the OP.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:20 am
by 80salife
I only hope that KRONOS lives such as long as the Triton and they develop a lot of EXIs more:-)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:26 pm
by JPWC
I agree with you SanderXpander, the ridiculous tone and rigidity makes me want to argue, even if I agree.

Sometimes it is the message, but sometimes it is the messenger.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:28 pm
by godparticle
I'm so hooked on the ridiculous tone and rigidity of EDM (Electronic Dance Music), i have nothing else in life, and now i even communicate in the ridiculous tone and rigidity of this genre, have mercy on me.

By the way, michelkeijzers, thanks for your good wishes.

kaptainkeyboard, i already have Sylenth, i don't think it sounds as good as Kronos, i simply need extra presets, what's wrong with that? You tell me how many people are skilled in programming synths, not many, you make it sound like i am retarded and lazy; if i knew how to program synth presets then naturally i would, yeah, but obviously like 99% of music producers i can't, so what's your problem? You make bad statements man.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:04 pm
by SanderXpander
Like 99% of your statements, that's just wrong.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:04 pm
by BasariStudios
To the Higgs Bossom:

1. Radias is already inside unless you missed it, except a lot more then the Radias.
2. That's where you wrong and probably don't understand computers, a compressor would
most likely require a lot more power then some of the other FX, besides reverbs.
3. You have space to do all this, MASTER does not necessarily mean at THE END.
4. Its a synth, you seem to want a DAW.
5. Yes, that's why is the best...you have the space and tools to create all those EDM
stuff that you need...Korg would not know exactly what the hell you need so you have tools.5
6. You can spare a Slot somewhere and run the tracks thru there first s it solvable.

Re: Serious update features need to complete Kronos X

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:06 pm
by BasariStudios
godparticle wrote:have said from an EDM producer's stand-point.
Korg is not really after Kids playing with Fruity Loops and also a Hardware
Workstation of the Kronos class is not the HOW TO FRUITY KIDS range.
Its more of a Musicians tool.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:05 am
by kaptainkeyboard
godparticle wrote:I'm so hooked on the ridiculous tone and rigidity of EDM (Electronic Dance Music), i have nothing else in life, and now i even communicate in the ridiculous tone and rigidity of this genre, have mercy on me.

By the way, michelkeijzers, thanks for your good wishes.

kaptainkeyboard, i already have Sylenth, i don't think it sounds as good as Kronos, i simply need extra presets, what's wrong with that? You tell me how many people are skilled in programming synths, not many, you make it sound like i am retarded and lazy; if i knew how to program synth presets then naturally i would, yeah, but obviously like 99% of music producers i can't, so what's your problem? You make bad statements man.
OK, let's be clear on a couple of points.
We all have a wish list for Kronos, but very few of us embark on a "Hate Korg" campaign to get our requests heard.
There are many ways of getting your point across, but the verbal equivalent of punching a person in the head to make your point is not one of them.
"you make bad statements man"

You have, on more than one occasion, declared yourself as an "EDM Producer".
If you have followed Busch's excellent contribution to this thread, it should be very clear to you what a Producer is. I am not a fan of EDM, however, I have a great deal of respect for KAYFYR's abilities, and I don't hear rediculous tone or rigidity in his productions, and I am not getting into your statement that 99% of Producers can't program their own sounds - that is just wrong man, on so many levels.

Virtually every response to your posts have been based on the fact that you have made your hatred of Korg perfectly clear and, more importantly, declared yourself as a Producer.
It is becoming clear that you are not a Producer, but a keen amateur in need of help and guidance.
Be very clear on this, there are some excellent people in this forum who would be more than happy to help you, and it saddens me greatly that you have chosen to alienate an extremely valuable resource.

Your frustration at your own abilities is becoming clear, and the only answer to your problem is to seek help.
There is no shame in asking questions, there is no such thing as a dumb question, we have all asked them and we are the better for it.
Despite my previous rants, I do wish you well, but you really must open the door and let some light in.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:25 am
by jeremykeys
The O.P mentioned Korg giving priority to" to pianos and other mundane acoustic instruments,". I said, pardon?

Mundane acoustic instruments. Yup. That kind of says it ll!

I guess dance music never uses piano. Hmmm.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:04 pm
by BasariStudios
godparticle wrote:What good is a sampler without a sound-source?
Not i think but i KNOW for a fact that you have no clue what a Sampler is.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:00 pm
by jorgemncardoso
godparticle wrote:I'm so hooked on the ridiculous tone and rigidity of EDM (Electronic Dance Music), i have nothing else in life, and now i even communicate in the ridiculous tone and rigidity of this genre, have mercy on me.

By the way, michelkeijzers, thanks for your good wishes.

kaptainkeyboard, i already have Sylenth, i don't think it sounds as good as Kronos, i simply need extra presets, what's wrong with that? You tell me how many people are skilled in programming synths, not many, you make it sound like i am retarded and lazy; if i knew how to program synth presets then naturally i would, yeah, but obviously like 99% of music producers i can't, so what's your problem? You make bad statements man.
To godparticle:

When i read all this nonsense and childish whining i was going to write a very long post but why bother... A few words that sums it up better than a lot of talking:

IMO a good musician (professional or not) only really needs two things: 20% of talent and 80% of study and hard work. If you have little of the first there is realy not mutch else you can do. If you are unwilling to bother with the second, then you should really look for a new line of work mate :wink:

Today's kids have way way more technology and ease of things than they can handle. That leaves less room to real talents to grow and mature and less room for hard work, study, dedication and commitment to be excellent to evolve. Just my view... 8)

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:22 pm
by BasariStudios
jorgemncardoso wrote:That leaves less room to real talents to grow and mature and less room for hard work
Yes they have talent...with Fruity Loops. Like the Higgs Bossom.