Sell Kronos and buy a Virus? (not a vs thread)

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QuiRobinez wrote:
robinkle wrote: I think it helps narrowing things down a bit. But the desision isn't made.
Even though 4 octaves is a bit limiting for piano playing, I will still check out the NL4. I like the nord interface and sound. 4 part multitimbral isn't bad either. I'll give it a test.
it will sound really good, quite different than a virus ti. But based on your description i think a virus ti would be a much better choice. For instance the Total recall funtion in a DAW or the usb sound streaming in your daw and the large polyphony would make it a better choice in my opinion.

The NL4 is 4 parts multitimbral but only 24 voices, so that's not really much compared to a Virus TI, also the keyboard of a virus TI is much better then NL4 (which lacks aftertouch and feels quite plastic).
Yes the total integration is splendid. I miss that feature. I sort of wish all new keyboads could have something just like that, even Kronos (yes I know, but it sux).
I think 24 voices is ok when you have 4 multitimbrals only, meaning average use of voices would be 6 per part, which isn't bad. You have a good point about aftertouch though, I tend to use it often, and the XV-3080 supports aftertouch, so again, Virus is the better choice indeed. The bad thing though is that the virus C had even better keybed then the TI, asuming TI and TI2 is using the same keybed. Never played tI2, only original TI.
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Completely agree that the Access Virus is really helpful for background sounds, sitting well in the mix without being too thick, and leaving air to breathe for other instruments. That's why I bought the Virus Rack XL to still have Access ;-) to this kind of sound, even if I sell my TI keyboard.

The NL4 has a very defined sound and - apart from the terrible display - a useful direct UI. I just can't relate to the "cool in the face" factor of Nord sounds, never could. If you want to hear the NL3 in funk context just have a listen to Mezzofortes live in Reikjavik sessions. I must admit it doesn't sound bad in context, but it still isn't exactly what I like about analog and better VA sounds. But that's just a matter of taste.
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jimknopf wrote:Completely agree that the Access Virus is really helpful for background sounds, sitting well in the mix without being too thick, and leaving air to breathe for other instruments. That's why I bought the Virus Rack XL to still have Access ;-) to this kind of sound, even if I sell my TI keyboard.

The NL4 has a very defined sound and - apart from the terrible display - a useful direct UI. I just can't relate to the "cool in the face" factor of Nord sounds, never could. If you want to hear the NL3 in funk context just have a listen to Mezzofortes live in Reikjavik sessions. I must admit it doesn't sound bad in context, but it still isn't exactly what I like about analog and better VA sounds. But that's just a matter of taste.
I think the users of the Nord Leads often use them as an addition to another keyboard like a stagepiano, piano or a Workstation like in Mezzoforte's live concert you mentioned (Big Fan btw). In my case I'm looking for a synthesizer that is the main keyboard in my studio. It needs the right amount of keys, it needs to take a big part in my setup and music, because I don't have much gear to choose from atm.

I was unlucky not to find any nearby dealer with a Nordlead 4. I would have to travel 10 miles. But I'm sure Virus TI2 Keyboard is my answer. And I'm selling Kronos. I hope to buy a another Korg someday maybe a knobby MOD-7 if it will ever happen. Even this forum makes it worth having a Korg. :)
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Virus

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I've had a Virus Ti Polar since 2007 and it sounds great, though be aware, the Virus Control software and more importantly the USB connection is an absolute Pig to get working. Has never worked properly for me, even after using both Mac and PC, USB Card, new powered hub...crap drivers causing massive latency, Arp's out of sync...etc.. If you want to it with just midi cables, then fine.
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Re: Virus

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magikroom wrote:I've had a Virus Ti Polar since 2007 and it sounds great, though be aware, the Virus Control software and more importantly the USB connection is an absolute Pig to get working. Has never worked properly for me, even after using both Mac and PC, USB Card, new powered hub...crap drivers causing massive latency, Arp's out of sync...etc.. If you want to it with just midi cables, then fine.
I used to have that problem when I had Virus TI polar and later TI2 desktop which I sold to buy Kronos. What I did to make it work perfectly, is to install a PCI-express card with 4 extra USB ports into my Mac Pro (2008). When I connected the TI to it, all the problems where solved. The ports didn't even share bus, so I could use the other 3 as well without affecting the Virus. I still have it installed, so I think it will be fine :)
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