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Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:42 am**

burningbusch wrote:I'm at NAMM. ... I liked the KingKorg. Filter emulations of the LPF Moog, P5 Oberheim, MS-20, TB303 plus similar in the HPF and BPF. The case and action is like the Krome. At $1299, it's a little pricy.
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Prophet 12 is excellent. The fit & feel quality is a nice improvement over earlier DSI synths. I think Dave sometimes pushes value, which isn't bad. Different from Moog where I always get the impression of the highest quality.
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Busch.

Frankly, it was exactly such a nice sounding Lead/Bass-Synth model with the mentioned filter emulations, which I would have liked a lot as additional Kronos engine - and of course I would have been ready to pay for it!
It would be much more practical to me (and I guess to many Kronos users) to pay 300-500$ or the like for such a well done Kronos synth module, than to carry other gear (Moogs etc.) around to get that kind of synth sound, especially for lead synth playing. By the way, cutoff knob on the right side of the KingKorg (idiotic name!) is really a bad joke, and 300 presets not enough for the concept.

That and better overdrive emulations, a CX3 update and a sequencer update are my main concerns for completing the stunning power of the Kronos as one-in-all solution at the moment.

The Prophet 12 looks to me like the best thing from Dave Smith from the last years. This thing might even replace my Access TI some day. It's really funny that in the digital age the Prophet 12 and the new Moog, along with the new little MS-20, three analog synths, seem to be the by far best keyboard announcements at Namm 2013!

I don't understand why the new Moog didin't get presets like the LP: it allows just as many (and more) preset variations to be saved. But else it has the smartest new analog synth functions I have seen in a long time, as explained by Amos Gaynes in this video:
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2013/01/ ... ub-phatty/
The new functionality to adjust beating bewteen two osillators between bass and high range alone is worth to use this great sounding Moog.

@Apex: Concerning Yamaha, I regard that quote from Motifator forums as a really lame excuse! Celebrating 125 years - and proudly naming it! - without presenting ANY synth or workstation even worth mentioning, is just plain unprofessional from my view.

Back to the Kronos: Of course it would make no sense at all to replace it at this point in time. It is great as it is, and it has received exceptionally well done updates so far (with the one excpetion of a not at all convincing editor/plugin). I just wished they had at least given a signal at Namm to continue the positive development: the Kronos is the by far most important synth on the whole present market, and should receive such attention at any NAMM.

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:58 am**

Bertotti wrote:So with the mini ms20 and the king korg do they offer anything that you Kronos users can't already do, function or tone, in the kronos itself? Thanks Bertotti

Not really. The only general problem sometimes is parameter stepping because of low MIDI resolution and aliasing (nothing I noticed with Kronos). If that weren't the case, keyboarders could not tell the difference between analog and VA.
(Like in the stradivari case it´s more hype then reality.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecaden ... -the-strad)

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:47 pm**

Saxifraga wrote:If that weren't the case, keyboarders could not tell the difference between analog and VA.
(Like in the stradivari case it´s more hype then reality.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecaden ... -the-strad)

I would love to see a scientifically controlled test like that. Take a bunch of blindfolded musicians and a load of VA and analogue gear...

"OK, now we move onto comparison number 5. What do you think... VA or analogue, VA or analogue?"

The person who ends up listening to (and hopefully buying) your product doesn't give a hoot what you performed it on. They probably don't know or care if you used a Prophet 12, Sub-Phatty, Kronos, Massive, TimewARP etc.

Speaking of the Pro 12... do you SERIOUSLY need 48 Osc Unison?

OK, I really, really need that cup of tea now.

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:30 pm**

MrDuke wrote:
navydave wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a "Best of Triton" set come to the Kronos. Lots of classic patches that I still like a tad better on the Triton, even when trying to hand-convert over from Hi to HD.
I'm still wondering how they did it on the Krome? I mean, they must be re-programmed "sound-alikes", since the Krome doesn't support adding samples - not officially anyway.

Many of the samples are the same. Oasys and Kronos also have many of them, even from the AI/AI2 synths. I have gotten absurdly close on the Kronos with many of my "must have" patches from the Trinity and Triton, and I'm just a dufus. I imagine someone that has access to the specs of the engines and effects would be able to get them sounding 99% alike where the samples overlapped.

Actually, I like the old patches better on the Kronos. The thing just sounds great.

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:36 pm**

jimknopf wrote:Frankly, it was exactly such a nice sounding Lead/Bass-Synth model with the mentioned filter emulations, which I would have liked a lot as additional Kronos engine - and of course I would have been ready to pay for it!
It would be much more practical to me (and I guess to many Kronos users) to pay 300-500$ or the like for such a well done Kronos synth module, than to carry other gear (Moogs etc.) around to get that kind of synth sound, especially for lead synth playing. By the way, cutoff knob on the right side of the KingKorg (idiotic name!) is really a bad joke, and 300 presets not enough for the concept.

I would LOVE to have those filters in AL1. That would be huge. 1000x better than the sequencer update.

Busch.

Posted: **Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:44 pm**

keego wrote:Krome users got 'Best of Triton' sound set for free

Posted: **Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:52 pm**

Zeroesque wrote:
MrDuke wrote:
navydave wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a "Best of Triton" set come to the Kronos. Lots of classic patches that I still like a tad better on the Triton, even when trying to hand-convert over from Hi to HD.
I'm still wondering how they did it on the Krome? I mean, they must be re-programmed "sound-alikes", since the Krome doesn't support adding samples - not officially anyway.
Many of the samples are the same. Oasys and Kronos also have many of them, even from the AI/AI2 synths. I have gotten absurdly close on the Kronos with many of my "must have" patches from the Trinity and Triton, and I'm just a dufus. I imagine someone that has access to the specs of the engines and effects would be able to get them sounding 99% alike where the samples overlapped.

Actually, I like the old patches better on the Kronos. The thing just sounds great.

Is that bank also available for Kronos users? Is that TRITON.PCG file compatible with our Kronos?
Really Wish they would do the same bank for Kronos.

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