Kronos feedback.

Knightshift · Post by **Knightshift** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:58 am

Hi, I have a question regardng the sequencer. Is is capable of playing 16 mono or 16 stereo files? Can the files be streamed directly from SSD or do you need to load them to RAM before?

thekeymaster · Post by **thekeymaster** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:02 am

Hi Sharp.Hope you're having a good time out there.

The sample RAM aspect gives me concern a little. 1GB is used and allocated for your own samples but its also dependant on which EXs are used ,is that correct.This will then reduce sample RAM. Do you know if there is any way the SSD can stream your own sample data? I know its been asked and sort of answered a little in this thread already but surely if this feature had been implemented then KORG would have blown it out of the water. Im a little confused about why there needs to be RAM allocated to EXs's when its supposed to be being read from the SSD?As for polyphony allocation they could have made your own user samples part of HD-1 or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Sequencer question,ahhhh the dreaded thing.Are there no new features added at all from the OASYS seq? I can't believe after 5 years and M3 they have not added anything new,apart from PPQ and 24 bit audio recording? I get the impression Korg would like you to use the KRONOS as a plug in to an existing set up rather than a production work horse? Again I may be being a little harsh.

Seems a natural progression of the OASYS concept. Burning question,will you as an OASYS owner be tempted to buy a KRONOS?

I love my OASYS,its the pinnacle as a synth for me. I love its design,its sound and its character.Thing is I gig a lot with mine.I miss an 88 note keyboard,I had the 76 note version and I was lucky enough to have been able to part ex a lot of gear and not pay the full asking price back in 2005. I notice that the 88 KRONOS weighs less than my 76 note OASYS,for me that is amazing! I'm not dissatisfied with the O but with the extra's the KRONOS offers plus how much lighter it is I have to give it thought. Im not getting any younger he he he he

,plus 23 kg for an 88 note is nice.

OASYS looks so dam sexy though with all it's lovely lights.

Thanks.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:41 am

Yep, I'd also want to know about the ("only") 1 GB RAM inside.

If I read the spec correctly, after loading PRELOAD.KSC you have 273 MB of leftover RAM for your stuff. Which means that seriously hinders user sampling? Or does Kronos sample directly to SSD, bypassing RAM?

Can user samples be streamed as well? If the whole 30 GB of SSD is filled, that probably won't fit into 1 GB of RAM?

Did Rich mention anything about upgradeability of RAM? (Would be a shame if Korg didn't allow this.)

embry0 · Post by **embry0** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:15 am

Thanks for all the feedback Sharp!

I have a question for you:

Is it possible to import MS20 & Polysix programs from the Legacy Collection VSTi, or even better, connect and use the Legacy MS20 USB-controller with the MS20 in the KRONOS?

Regards
embry0

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:23 pm

billysynth1 wrote:Hi Sharp,

Would you know if you have the drum pattern going on a progrom or combi and you change to another sound, does the drum pattern continue or does it stop?

For example if im playing an organ sound and i press the drum button will the drum pattern continue if i change the program to a piano sound?

Hope this question makes sense. Im referring to the drum button that was portered over from the m3

Thanks
Billy

Hi.

No, the drum track it's part of the Program or the COMBI. It's not a separate entity in those modes.
If you want to do what your thinking you have to use SEQ mode as that's where it becomes separate from the sound.

Regards
Sharp.

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:38 pm

peter m. mahr wrote:But didn't KORG add several new EFX, mostly for the EP-1 and I guess also added some rooms / reverbs for the SG.

Peter

Yes and they sound really good.

Regards
Sharp.

Barnabeat · Post by **Barnabeat** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:46 pm

To me the most important thing is the sound quality...OASYS has 32 bits....what about the KRONOS?...also the kronos is 16 dbu...output..the oasys is 18.5....so wich one sounds better, bigger..

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:47 pm

Akos Janca wrote:Thank you Sharp for the valuable information.

Yes, I know you've got good ears for that - but how could you evaluate the sound of KRONOS vs. OASYS in such noisy environment?

3 reasons I guess.

It's not so noisy where the Kronos was. The Kronos was in a sound proof room large enough to fit 30 people. Even with all the noise going on out side leaking in, you can still hear a person talking from the other side of the room without amplification. So you do get to hear it very easily. The Kronos is not demonstrated out side of this room at all.

It has all the same engines as the OASYS. So the same software and samples exist on the kronos as on the OASYS.... plus more.

And finally, I asked the question straight out. Amazing really.

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:59 pm

SoulBe wrote:Hi Sharp,

thanks for that insight view.

Maybe I overread ...

can we load the sounds into OASYS that are created for Kronos using only the engines that are in OASYS as well? Or can only Kronos load Oasys sounds?

best Regards
SoulBe

No, it's a one way ticked and even at that a few tweaks might need to take place in COMBI mode. That's what I was told but not by Richard, so don't take this as the final say on it. The person who said it may not be entirely up to speed.

I'd stick a pin in this one for later.

Regards
Sharp.

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:01 pm

Knightshift wrote:Hi, I have a question regardng the sequencer. Is is capable of playing 16 mono or 16 stereo files? Can the files be streamed directly from SSD or do you need to load them to RAM before?

Same as OASYS.
16 Mono tracks streamed.

Regards
Sharp.

Barnabeat · Post by **Barnabeat** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:50 pm

can anyone who knows more than me...speak about the 32 bits of the OASYS and the different dbu with the kronos....i think the M3 is 24 bits like the KRONOS....so the OASYS SOUNDS BETTER AND BIGGER..IS THAT RIGHT?

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:02 pm

Thank you Sharp. Another question: could you get an answer from Korg why they haven't mentioned OASYS at all when introducing KRONOS? It can't be an accident.

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:31 pm

Akos Janca wrote:Thank you Sharp. Another question: could you get an answer from Korg why they haven't mentioned OASYS at all when introducing KRONOS? It can't be an accident.

I can answer that now very easily.

It's quite painful to hear the questions KORG are being asked by people. Most people here have very little understanding about most things and I'm pretty amazed how KORG staff remain so professional when people ask such stupid questions.

Bearing that in mind......

From a demonstration point of view it is important to keep the demo very clean and to the point. Making references to an existing product that most people don't know about is a utter waste of time. The demonstrations are very informative for people on any level the way they are presented.

There's really no other way around it to be honest. They must present the demonstration in the manner they are doing for everyone to understand.

KORG staff on a one to one satiations is a different story. They adapt instantly to the level YOU are at and it's just easy then to talk about things like the OASYS so you understand quicker.

Regards
Sharp.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:33 pm

Sharp, did you check out about questions I raised above?

bax · Post by **bax** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:49 pm

Thanks for the detailed info Sharp - we definitely appreciate someone providing answers to our questions!

Thanks!
bax