Where is the Kronos Editor and Plug-In Editor?

[danatkorg]

Lou and Bruce: "Kronos definitely does audio over USB now. I'm using it in Logic".

Thank you for making me aware of this ... I hadn't realised it was possible (I couldn't find anything mentioning it in the manuals)

USB audio is included anywhere that audio inputs and outputs are discussed. Do searches for "USB" in the Operation Guide and Parameter Guide.

It's also noted Operation Guide:

Introduction to KRONOS-> Front and rear panels -> Rear panel -> USB B port

Setup -> 7. Connection to a computer via USB

Hope this helps,

Dan

[Sparker]

Thank you

[robkeith]

Anyway back to the theme.... where is the editor, how many times has it been said, " oh very soon now" I love this baby, but the editor was really part of the deal at it's inception

[bruceknee]

I am new here. I just opened my brand new Kronos 88 key and slapped it on my desk and plugged in my computer and couldn't make it work. So I start searching online. The salesman told me there is an editor and a plugin editor....perfect as I use DP. You can imagine how I feel right now. Anyhow, please do make these softwares available ASAP. It is really truly annoying.

[michelkeijzers]

I am new here. I just opened my brand new Kronos 88 key and slapped it on my desk and plugged in my computer and couldn't make it work. So I start searching online. The salesman told me there is an editor and a plugin editor....perfect as I use DP. You can imagine how I feel right now. Anyhow, please do make these softwares available ASAP. It is really truly annoying.

The salesman was not really informed then. Afaik there only will be a single piece of software. Also it is already known for a long time it is not available yet but Korg is working at it.

[jkramer5]

I am new here. I just opened my brand new Kronos 88 key and slapped it on my desk and plugged in my computer and couldn't make it work. So I start searching online. The salesman told me there is an editor and a plugin editor....perfect as I use DP. You can imagine how I feel right now. Anyhow, please do make these softwares available ASAP. It is really truly annoying.

Put me in the line of people that bought from an uninformed salesman then, I just found this forum for the same reason.

Making excuses for Korg not releasing it yet when it's plastered all over the internet that it has one is weak. I bought it to use with logic as a tone generator and as a in house kybd for my studio. I can still use it for such, but not nearly as easily as the advertising led me to believe.

[Cpilot]

I'll confirm the audio. I had Arturia Storm on the laptop connected via USB to the Kronos thundering out the other day. Beats the laptop audio by a long way. Just go to Global mode page 0-2 and select what you need.

Bryan

[Sparker]

Regarding using the Kronos with a computer the Korg UK site states:

Computer Connectivity
KRONOS can send MIDI signals to and from your computer via USB. Using the KRONOS Editor software (free download), sounds and settings can be edited directly from your computer. The KRONOS Plug-in Editor (free download) lets you use KRONOS from within many popular DAW systems, as if it were a plug-in instrument. KRONOS can also be used as an audio I/O for your computer, sending and receiving two channels of audio via USB

This does give the impression that there will be two seperate downloads of software (the editor and the plug-in) - Now I think it's possible that there will be only one piece of software needed to do both jobs and that the marketing boys have got carried away in their description - if not then there will be two seperate downloads.

Personally I have no problem with the editor and the plug-in being either one or two programmes. I'd just prefer it if chickens hadn't been counted before they were hatched.

I do have more concerns about the last bit of text which says:

In a music production system using your KRONOS and a computer, there is no need to purchase any additional hardware, creating the simplest possible set-up.

I took this to mean that the Kronos would replace audio/midi card. For sure I can use the USB as an audio In/Out in just the same way as I can use the main jack-plug In/Out's, which indeed is convienient - however when I've tried using Cubase (my preferred music production system) and the Kronos without any other audio/midi cards then Cubase doesn't recognise the Kronos in it's devices set-up (as the Korg driver isn't an ASIO driver AFAIK). So the blurb about "no need to purchase any additional hardware ... for the simplest possible set-up" is a bit disingenuous, as I do need a audio/midi soundcard to use my computer as a DAW with Cubase.
(I accept that I can do music production on the Kronos using the USB as an audio input source - but I hardly need USB computer connectivity to do that as every/most computer(s) has an audio out or headphone jack which would do the same job, as do my portable music players and my home music system).


Now I'm not complaining about the Kronos - I'd have bought it anyway and I already have several audio-midi soundcards - but I am suggesting that the marketing & advertising boys and girls should make sure that what they advertise is clear, unambiguous and deliverable.

Of course if I'm doing something wrong and I can run Cubase with the Kronos and without a audio/midi interface I'm sure someone will put me aright.

[markn]

Regarding using the Kronos with a computer the Korg UK site states:

In a music production system using your KRONOS and a computer, there is no need to purchase any additional hardware, creating the simplest possible set-up.

I took this to mean that the Kronos would replace audio/midi card. For sure I can use the USB as an audio In/Out in just the same way as I can use the main jack-plug In/Out's, which indeed is convienient - however when I've tried using Cubase (my preferred music production system) and the Kronos without any other audio/midi cards then Cubase doesn't recognise the Kronos in it's devices set-up (as the Korg driver isn't an ASIO driver AFAIK). So the blurb about "no need to purchase any additional hardware ... for the simplest possible set-up" is a bit disingenuous, as I do need a audio/midi soundcard to use my computer as a DAW with Cubase....

Kronos is visible and usable on my macbook air as well in Audio-Midi-Setup, as well as I/O in Logic. So it works the described way, at least on the OSX platform. I can´t tell anything about PC/Windows though...

[.Jens]

In fact the audio and midi connectivity is already working. The midi driver can be downloaded, and there is in fact no audio driver, as the USB interface is recognized as class compliant device. I tried both with linux and Windows (XP, so far) and it did work. You can use ASIO4all to make the Kronos addressable in an ASIO environment.

One drawback is, that at least regarding my personal test setup (with ASIO4all and pretty outdated CPU), latency did not drop below ~ 12-20ms. But as long as we talk about the Kronos as audio interface in a DAW setup, latencies don't really matter. If you want to play "live", however, that might be a concern demanding a dedicated ASIO driver (which will probably be included in the upcoming Editor/VSTi package, according to a german KORG representative).

[jahrome]

Yes! I finally got what I paid for....downloading all the software as I type this. I will immediately run this in the MPC.

[SeedyLee]

I was reading the book "Power Tools for Synthesizer Programming" written by Jim Aiken and published in 2004. It contains this passage on page 69:

Caveat Emptor: ... In the case of a synthesizer or other electronic device, an important caveat is that it's almost always a bad idea to purchase the product based on the manufacturer's promise about features that will be added to the next version of the operating system.

Even major, reputable manufacturers are notriously optimistic about how quickly they'll be able to finish and release an OS update. Features that are promised "in a few weeks" may not appear for six months, a year or even longer ... Don't buy promises.

Eight years after those wise words were written, consumers still haven't become more savvy, and manufacturers haven't become more forthcoming![/quote]