What's just below the Octatrack?

blackmental · Post by **blackmental** » Sun May 10, 2015 2:46 pm

Telengard wrote:Have you seen this link:

http://midierror.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09 ... d-emx.html

Actually I did, and I'm gonna rely on it.
Thanks for bringing it back.

Hugo · Post by **Hugo** » Sun May 10, 2015 2:55 pm

thesigma wrote:
sohatyi wrote:I'd really like an RS7000, almost landed one with the IO board the other month. It looks great, despite being a bit aged. The RM1X's work flow suited me so I think it would work for me.

There just don't seem to be beefy products like that anymore, we're lumbered with old tech or newer, really limited products.
I guess there's no money in it anymore. Like adapop said, most people use computers nowadays and many of them steal the software to make it even worse.

I personally know plenty of hardware heads that would love an updated rs7000 type of sampler/sequencer, and would be willing to pay for it, but the big companies are less likely to make something like that anymore. Now elektron makes some expensive hardware devices and people buy them too, but the companies like yamaha would rather sell millions of units of digital pianos and workstations, than a couple thousand new groove boxes. So like you said, we are stuck with powerful, but old machines that become less reliable everyday, mechanically that is. The ones back then were usually solid when released and any updates just made things better. Very different than what goes on today.

I agree stuff like the Octatrack is somewhat expensive, but as I remember the RS7000 was way more expensive when it was around. You also had to pay for RAM (a necessary investment indeed) and memory cards (also necessary), plus the optional i/o board (not an absolute must-have, though). So altogether this raised the cost significantly of an already expensive machine.

I still love my RS7000, and am planning on getting another one, Plus an Octatrack

I love hardware.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Sun May 10, 2015 4:03 pm

I think I paid close to $2000 for my first S3000XL when you added in the extra memory and expansion boards. Makes the OT look like a steal in comparison.

sauce · Post by **sauce** » Mon May 11, 2015 7:42 am

Tarekith wrote:I think I paid close to $2000 for my first S3000XL when you added in the extra memory and expansion boards.

Yep, and about five years ago I bought a number of them used for around $50, which truly *was* a steal. I am glad to see they have started to hold a little value.. I very powerful sampler indeed with a fantastic sound.

dutchcow · Post by **dutchcow** » Mon May 11, 2015 10:35 am

Things we want are not being made is mostly motivated financially I think. Ideally musical instrument makers make instruments for musicians. But now that everybody and their chord playing cat is a musician they just cram out whatever they thinks sells the most.

Shouldn't companies also try to contribute to the advancement of music making? They have the skills and knowledge to make a RS7k 2.0 or maybe even modular or custom groove box on demand. Like someone said here it's odd we're stuck with old beasts and new crippled gear.

Time to heat up that soldering iron.