Wish list for next firmware update for Electribe 2

256K · Post by **256K** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:21 am

it would be pretty cool too if there was a sort of patch save feature where you can work on sounds and then just save them and access them later.

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:30 am

Tarekith wrote:
roblabs wrote:i personally don't think an electribe needs an undo button due to the nature of its workflow (this current one along with the older models), but that's just my opinion here.
Yeah, it's crazy cause Gadget drives me batshit that it doesn't have undo, mainly because the touch sensitive of the iPad doesn't always do what I want. On the electribe I haven't thought of it once yet. can't hurt though.

As long as an undo function on the electribe2 doesn't come at the sacrifice of a more needed feature, I'm cool with it. I'm with you on gadget, I love the app but it really needs undo more than anything. I'm surprised Korg hasn't updated it to include one already.

Octahedron · Post by **Octahedron** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:08 am

1. Fix all audio glitches
2. Better (step) editing (enter notes via pads, copy bar, paste bar in different pattern, transpose sequence,...)
3. 8 bars or the ability to set length per PART ie. 8 bars at 8th note resolution for long evolving melodies, 4 bars at 16th notes, 2 bars at 32 th notes for percussive parts,...
4. Song mode or overdub for event recorder with undo. Right now event recorder is WAY to much trial and error for me, frustrating as hell.
6. Reverb in the ifx so i can use the mfx for something different, and second parameter for ifx.
5. Maybe give emx2 owners basic sampling fuctionality ( just like esx2 owners will have basic synth features)

Maybe this thread could be turned into a poll, everyone could vote for, say, three favourite features. We could send a link to korg/mistabishi which would provide them with a quick overview of the most asked for features...

dutchcow · Post by **dutchcow** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:29 pm

I'm worried there is so much to fix there will always be things left unfixed turning this into quite a lemon. And because till this date me and my distributor have not heard anything back from Korg I decided to opt for my money back rather than a new e2 (since mine got bricked).

I don't want to take a gamble with Korg. I will order one again once they sort out the huge list of bugs, glitches and omitted features from previous models.

Rushing out a device with unfinished a buggy software and then expecting your customers to sit and wait for fixes and not communicate what will be fixed and more importantly what won't be fixed will cost them business, at least mine for now.

Octahedron · Post by **Octahedron** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:03 pm

Let's hope not duchcow but believe you might be right. I'll hold on to mine for a while because there is so much i like about it too.

Ars Phoenix · Post by **Ars Phoenix** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:53 pm

I'm really missing Song Mode. I use the Electribe as the clock for a DSI Pro 2 and a Moog Sub Phatty, and it works beautifully while playing back patterns. I expected playing the Event Recorder to sync start the Pro 2 sequencer like in pattern mode, but it doesn't. I was basing my new setup around syncing those 2 sequencers, but this lack of sync in the Event Recorder is throwing a huge wrench it. I checked the global params in every device and am pretty sure I'm not just missing something. Doesn't this make the Event Recorder kind of useless if you are MIDI syncing other hardware?

Re-Member · Post by **Re-Member** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:46 pm

dutchcow wrote:I'm worried there is so much to fix there will always be things left unfixed turning this into quite a lemon. And because till this date me and my distributor have not heard anything back from Korg I decided to opt for my money back rather than a new e2 (since mine got bricked).

I don't want to take a gamble with Korg. I will order one again once they sort out the huge list of bugs, glitches and omitted features from previous models.

Rushing out a device with unfinished a buggy software and then expecting your customers to sit and wait for fixes and not communicate what will be fixed and more importantly what won't be fixed will cost them business, at least mine for now.

Although I've held off on buying one myself, I still have the money I saved set aside just in case. Since the Electribe Sampler is still two months away from being released, it's quite possible that a major update for the current one will happen alongside the sampling version's release. I agree that it totally sucks that those whom bought one early are stuck with a lemon, but I'd like to think that any bugs in the OS they are discovering within the Sampling version will also be applied to the regular one as well since it's being developed from the same software.

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:30 am

^ I agree with you, Re-Member. Also consider this, everyone: although us e2 owners really want updates, its probably better to wait and get a really thorough OS update rather than Korg rushing with this even more than they already have.

I only hope they're not as skinny as the Gadget updates.

256K · Post by **256K** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:36 am

i have no problems waiting until march or so for a overhaul of the OS or at least a very solid leak proof update for the e2...but if the sampler is released before these issues are fixed im going to be proper pissed!

dutchcow · Post by **dutchcow** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:05 am

My problem with waiting is that at some point I can't return the e2 to the shop for my money back, which is important to me as I don't what to end up with a device that has bugs that will not be fixed. Now that I got my money back, I can wait until NAMM 2016 for Korg to fix the issues and then buy it again

Spheric El · Post by **Spheric El** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:30 am

They have to honour you all with at least half the main bugs fixed.
They'll lose a lot of future custom (in the budget market) if they diss a community.

thebiglebowski · Post by **thebiglebowski** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:53 am

O FFS stop whining…

This model started shipping in late December, its the end of January, they recently introduced two flagship products at NAMM that probably kept them busy for a while, and the planned release of the Sampler which is based on the same OS (I suppose) will be in March/April, so a maybe a major update will come with it.

Don't blame Korg. Todays economy forces companies to ship unfinished products and demands from customers to change their gear much more frequently. This sell-sell-sell pace is unbearable, both for companies and customers. Look at the TV industry - you buy a TV set and use it for years, and that idea means companies like Samsung or Sony ar f***ed, that's why they introduce all those completely unnecessary gimmicks: 3D, smart TV, 4K, curved screens etc.

And that „ignoring the community” thing… What community did you have in the 70s and 80s? Where there firmware updates for a Minimoog? No, but you could buy a new revised version.

I don't know for sure but didn't the TB-303 have only a 1-bar sequencer? Yet it was responsible for genre-defining classic tunes, made by artists that achieved so much, that most of us forum nerds will never get even close to a tiny fraction of it…

One more thing - remember the whining, the outcry, the outrage, the screams of despair when Korg released the Volca Sample and that the dedicated sample librarian app was iOS only?
And they released a dev kit and now you can control the unit from all possible platforms. Did „The Community” say „sorry Korg” for all the negativity and agressive comments? Don't think so...

Have some faith, people...

dutchcow · Post by **dutchcow** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:41 pm

I don't think it's whining to expect a product to work properly. If someone sells me a car I expect all 4 wheels to be there and not have the 4th wheel shipped to me at a later date. Unless I knew the car only had 3 wheels before my purchase there's good reason to moan and whine

Nobody is forcing Korg to release a badly tested product on to the market. And judging by the release schedule of the previous Tribe models they are not letting anyone force or rush them. I really hope they lack of fast firmware updates with small fixes is due to Korg fixing the big list of bugs and testing it properly now.

thebiglebowski · Post by **thebiglebowski** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:27 pm

dutchcow wrote:I don't think it's whining to expect a product to work properly. If someone sells me a car I expect all 4 wheels to be there and not have the 4th wheel shipped to me at a later date. Unless I knew the car only had 3 wheels before my purchase there's good reason to moan and whine

It's not a car, its a groovebox that started shipping 6 weeks ago.

dutchcow · Post by **dutchcow** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:53 pm

^ The car was just an example. Maybe you don't mind paying for an unfinished product, but I do. Sorry if I'm vocal and have an opinion. Telling people to stop whining with a FFS in it is pretty much whining about whining in rude manner. Also there is whining and constructive criticism to try and help a company that obviously doesn't want customer input.

None of the excuses you listed in your rant is a valid excuse to release an unfinished and buggy product and then expect your customers to sit and wait and hope for fixes. Fact remains that nobody forced them to release it and they could've delayed the release until the firmware was stable and mature enough.

I would go a step further and say that a forgiving attitude is only enabling companies to rush releases and maybe only fix half the bugs before releasing a new product and leaving you out in the cold. Also Korg hasn't replied to pretty much anyone here that emailed them. How hard can it be to respond to your customers?

Buying a brand new instrument shouldn't be a gamble like this. What if they never fix the clicking or pattern change issues or any of the other bugs? Will you still be so forgiving when you're stuck with an expensive paperweight that might never get fixed? I don't, and since you can't always get your money back, I expect something to be good/functioning from the get go. If we all do that a company will think twice before rushing out a buggy product.