NEW TYROS, IS NEW ZEUS

[xmlguy]

Thank u for the explanation.

Year, i know the original definition to what means ROMpler, i just desided to add my own color which i think is the most valid and also unoyinly weak point in modern ROMplers...

P.s. By the way Kontakt 5 is a ROMpler too by the difinition, but i will not call it that way because it is really good and does not have weakness wich hardware saple playback keyboards has.

It's rather silly to call keyboards junk, when many of the members here own them, know them far better than you do, and we all know that this gear is used on a daily basis by professional musician who are well known and respected in the music industry. Whatever thrill you get from hurling your insults only makes you look like an ignorant newb around here. Maybe that's how you want to be perceived here, but if not, then I suggest that you focus on the Korg gear you own for your comments, since nobody really cares what you think is junk or not. You can refuse to buy whatever you want without trying to put down the gear you don't like here that the rest of us may own.

I own a ton of gear from Korg, Yamaha, Roland, Akai, Novation, etc., and I have good reasons why I do. You might find it educational to make note of the keyboards used by bands on TV shows, like Letterman, Conan, Leno, etc.. You'll discover that they don't always use the latest, newest gear.

[chilly7]

Thank u for the explanation.

Year, i know the original definition to what means ROMpler, i just desided to add my own color which i think is the most valid and also unoyinly weak point in modern ROMplers...

P.s. By the way Kontakt 5 is a ROMpler too by the difinition, but i will not call it that way because it is really good and does not have weakness wich hardware saple playback keyboards has.

It's rather silly to call keyboards junk, when many of the members here own them, know them far better than you do, and we all know that this gear is used on a daily basis by professional musician who are well known and respected in the music industry. Whatever thrill you get from hurling your insults only makes you look like an ignorant newb around here. Maybe that's how you want to be perceived here, but if not, then I suggest that you focus on the Korg gear you own for your comments, since nobody really cares what you think is junk or not. You can refuse to buy whatever you want without trying to put down the gear you don't like here that the rest of us may own.

I own a ton of gear from Korg, Yamaha, Roland, Akai, Novation, etc., and I have good reasons why I do. You might find it educational to make note of the keyboards used by bands on TV shows, like Letterman, Conan, Leno, etc.. You'll discover that they don't always use the latest, newest gear.

Well i think what most people use does not mean that it is the best.

in old days most people belived that the Earth is flat, but it was not true. If the most people use Motif Xf in music indastry it does mot mean Motif XF is a synthesizers with cuting age technologies. I think the marketing trick fools alot of people, and at my opinion most of the time it is the raw lair.

For example if to go to Kurzweil web site or watch their promotional videos they write something like:
1)out synthesizers uses the cuting age technologies
2) we have a World class strings
3) we use the most poverful latest hardware
4) our famos Kurzweil piano
and so many more...

but the reality is
1) PC3k8 uses a wery dated technology, there is nothing cuting age in Pc3K8
2) they have a couple mb ROM of compressed, lopped, strached string section.
3) Their hardwere in PC3k8 in fakt might be even weaker then modern hardwere in computers on cash registers in grossery stores.
4) Ask any high profile pianist, do they know what is "Kurzweil Piano? probably not.

And it is not just Kurzweil, Yamaha also lairs on their web site about their so called " Workstations", i belive if sombody court thouse companies for posting missinformation on their web sites, i think this man would easely win a trial.

[rrricky rrrecordo]

I mean Yamaha Motif XS,XF ,Yamaha Tyros, Roland Fantom G ,Kurzweil Pc3k8 and other junk which are based on prehistoric technologies...

Hahafekkinha! So you may consider - let's say for example - my Motif XS or Trinity V3 to be "junk" based on their "prehistoric" technology, but that's just you displaying your obvious ignorance in regard to those two beautiful instruments. Their age and underlying tech are part of their charm. They are still wonderful tools to work with.

There is the odd "musical" tool out there that can be quite annoying to listen to in prolonged doses, I'll give you that

[kimu]

beware that Zeus dethroned his father kronos as consequence of titanomachy and become the king of all gods

and btw Jupiter it's the english version of the roman name for Zeus (Giove).

[chilly7]

I mean Yamaha Motif XS,XF ,Yamaha Tyros, Roland Fantom G ,Kurzweil Pc3k8 and other junk which are based on prehistoric technologies...

Hahafekkinha! So you may consider - let's say for example - my Motif XS or Trinity V3 to be "junk" based on their "prehistoric" technology, but that's just you displaying your obvious ignorance in regard to those two beautiful instruments. Their age and underlying tech are part of their charm. They are still wonderful tools to work with.

There is the odd "musical" tool out there that can be quite annoying to listen to in prolonged doses, I'll give you that

i just compared them to modern VSTis...
i do not think any digital hardwere synthesizer has something that does not have modern VSTis, but ofcause turn it eround, yes modern VSTis has so many things which lucks digital keyboards...

P.s. my prediction is that Korg alredy asterted to ser thT, and mu prediction is that there will not be Kronos successor, i think Korg will start making software as the main focuse...

[Chriskk]

I mean Yamaha Motif XS,XF ,Yamaha Tyros, Roland Fantom G ,Kurzweil Pc3k8 and other junk which are based on prehistoric technologies...

The grand piano, the Hammond organ and the Minimoog are based on even older technologies. Do you call them junk?

No instrument is junk in a competent player's hand. Only a player can be junk.

[karmathanever]

Just think it is interesting how a "rumour" can create so much interest....
Must admit that I looked it up but can't find any reference to it.

Come on Asena, where did you read about this?
As someone said something like "...no pics? doesn't exist...."

..or is this just a time waster like the youtube vids of the PA4X?


Pete

[jimknopf]

I mean Yamaha Motif XS,XF ,Yamaha Tyros, Roland Fantom G ,Kurzweil Pc3k8 and other junk which are based on prehistoric technologies...

The grand piano, the Hammond organ and the Minimoog are based on even older technologies. Do you call them junk?

No instrument is junk in a competent player's hand. Only a player can be junk.

Completely agree with Chris on this. All the instruments mentioned are very well useable for a lot of musical styles and purposes.

Chilly, just because you sit stuck in a home environment behind a Mac, that does not mean that hardware instruments are outdated crap. It just tells a lot about the limited perspective of VST-users, without much connection to the real world of band playing with hardware-synths. Band keyboarders make their own decisions about gear they want to use, and are certainly not impressed by this constant talk about software, which they know well, and use casually as they please. No need for constant efforts of proving something which can't be proved: that right now hardware synths should seem more or less obsolete because VSTis exist. That's just nonsense.

[Shahin]

OK !! as much fun it is as wait and see you guys drool and gossip on zeus i think the APRIL FOOL which asena created has got out of hand !

It is clear guys cant you see it? APRIL FOOL !! geee!

i thought no one would fall for it but damn !
read asenas post once more with april fool in mind now !
even my poost clearly shows the sarcasm ! ( ha ha yeah im smart you know)

anyway , it was nice if it was true. we are bored to hell due to lack of any major synth/arranger release but...alas.

[xmlguy]

Nobody here has actually been fooled. We just don't give a flying f*ck about it, which is why we're talking about everything but what an imaginary Yamaha workstation based on the Tyros might be. This is us not giving a f*ck. No fucks given.

[chilly7]

I mean Yamaha Motif XS,XF ,Yamaha Tyros, Roland Fantom G ,Kurzweil Pc3k8 and other junk which are based on prehistoric technologies...

The grand piano, the Hammond organ and the Minimoog are based on even older technologies. Do you call them junk?

No instrument is junk in a competent player's hand. Only a player can be junk.

U did not read carefuly, please read carefuly whati say, but in order to safe u time i will tell ur mistake.

I wrote" modern digital keyboards"

I think many analog synthsizers were made with heart and soul unlike most modern digital keyboards like Motif Xf which at my opinion were made not by musicians but by sellers persons...

But i think the feature is that digital algorithms become so good that they will be able to capture awrything what high quality anoalog equipment can do, so there will not be a point for analog at all.

Today we have Uhe DIVA, Uhe Ace, FXpansion Dcam Synth Squade, NI Monark and so on and they are really close to Analog....

[chilly7]

I mean Yamaha Motif XS,XF ,Yamaha Tyros, Roland Fantom G ,Kurzweil Pc3k8 and other junk which are based on prehistoric technologies...

The grand piano, the Hammond organ and the Minimoog are based on even older technologies. Do you call them junk?

No instrument is junk in a competent player's hand. Only a player can be junk.

Completely agree with Chris on this. All the instruments mentioned are very well useable for a lot of musical styles and purposes.

Chilly, just because you sit stuck in a home environment behind a Mac, that does not mean that hardware instruments are outdated crap. It just tells a lot about the limited perspective of VST-users, without much connection to the real world of band playing with hardware-synths. Band keyboarders make their own decisions about gear they want to use, and are certainly not impressed by this constant talk about software, which they know well, and use casually as they please. No need for constant efforts of proving something which can't be proved: that right now hardware synths should seem more or less obsolete because VSTis exist. That's just nonsense.

Mac is not home enviremtnt only. u can do live with them too.
At my opinion modern digital harwere synthsizers has nothing that is not possible in VST imveremont but if tu turn it around yes VST emveroment has so many things which are not possible on modern digital keyboards...


Modern digital hardwere synthsizers does not have anything megical, they are very the same to computers
1) Hardwere
2)software

Hardwere is usualy very weak and unupgradeble
Software is usualy locked and is not as good as software on computers.

open ur eyes and ears people!!!

[MarPabl]

Nobody here has actually been fooled. We just don't give a flying f*ck about it, which is why we're talking about everything but what an imaginary Yamaha workstation based on the Tyros might be. This is us not giving a f*ck. No fucks given.

Indeed, it has been a nice exercise on Greek mythology as well as the typical discussion Workstation vs VST

[Asena]

What are you guys runn after, No Keyboard has all that we realy Need,

Can they make it? YES will they make it NO!! Not yet They must make money on us fist

So Chill out

[chilly7]

What are you guys runn after, No Keyboard has all that we realy Need,

Can they make it? YES will they make it NO!! Not yet They must make money on us fist

So Chill out

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