Can I upgrade the Intel D510MO in my Kronos to the new type

Zhiwagoo · Post by **Zhiwagoo** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:39 pm

Maybe someone already with monitor and keyboard hooked up to the MB directly (seen it on this forum somewhere I think) can have a look at POST or maybe BIOS itself, then compare the verion ID with offcial ones on intel web?

Not sure whether local electronics shop can always help (e.g. fried chipset for some reason)

lotty1 · Post by **lotty1** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:36 am

Hi
My kronos is in the process of being repaired and the symptoms are the same as the last time i.e. fails to start-up and they replaced the motherboard.
I have asked the service center if this motherboard has gone faulty again to put in the Kronos X board so will let you know what happens when it arrives back home.

lotty1 · Post by **lotty1** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:17 am

lotty1 wrote:Hi
My kronos is in the process of being repaired and the symptoms are the same as the last time i.e. fails to start-up and they replaced the motherboard.
I have asked the service center if this motherboard has gone faulty again to put in the Kronos X board so will let you know what happens when it arrives back home.

Just to update this message it would appear that korg are fitting a kronos X motheboard to my kronos as my motherboard was found faulty.

BobTheDog · Post by **BobTheDog** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:26 am

My fingers are crossed for you.

lotty1 · Post by **lotty1** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:32 am

BobTheDog wrote:My fingers are crossed for you.

Cheers

SynthKeyWizard · Post by **SynthKeyWizard** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:38 pm

lotty1 wrote:
lotty1 wrote:Hi
My kronos is in the process of being repaired and the symptoms are the same as the last time i.e. fails to start-up and they replaced the motherboard.
I have asked the service center if this motherboard has gone faulty again to put in the Kronos X board so will let you know what happens when it arrives back home.
Just to update this message it would appear that korg are fitting a kronos X motheboard to my kronos as my motherboard was found faulty.

Does they fitted D525MW without any other changes? I mean, if there is original Intel BIOS in new motherboard?

I need to replace MB in my K61, want to replace D510MO with D525MW, but these motherboards are out of stock. I want to try replace it woth original D525MW.

lotty1 · Post by **lotty1** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:00 pm

SynthKeyWizard wrote:
lotty1 wrote:
lotty1 wrote:Hi
My kronos is in the process of being repaired and the symptoms are the same as the last time i.e. fails to start-up and they replaced the motherboard.
I have asked the service center if this motherboard has gone faulty again to put in the Kronos X board so will let you know what happens when it arrives back home.
Just to update this message it would appear that korg are fitting a kronos X motheboard to my kronos as my motherboard was found faulty.
Does they fitted D525MW without any other changes? I mean, if there is original Intel BIOS in new motherboard?

I need to replace MB in my K61, want to replace D510MO with D525MW, but these motherboards are out of stock. I want to try replace it woth original D525MW.

The memory different and the motherboard is slightly smaller but that's all as I understand it.
But Korg are changing the MB not me.

SynthKeyWizard · Post by **SynthKeyWizard** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:32 pm

lotty1 wrote:
SynthKeyWizard wrote:
lotty1 wrote: Just to update this message it would appear that korg are fitting a kronos X motheboard to my kronos as my motherboard was found faulty.
Does they fitted D525MW without any other changes? I mean, if there is original Intel BIOS in new motherboard?

I need to replace MB in my K61, want to replace D510MO with D525MW, but these motherboards are out of stock. I want to try replace it woth original D525MW.
The memory different and the motherboard is slightly smaller but that's all as I understand it.
But Korg are changing the MB not me.

Memory difference is don't matter. Would be good to know if motherboard have proprietary BIOS. In that case - we can't simply replace MB with another one.

lotty1 · Post by **lotty1** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:55 pm

SynthKeyWizard wrote:
lotty1 wrote:
SynthKeyWizard wrote: Does they fitted D525MW without any other changes? I mean, if there is original Intel BIOS in new motherboard?

I need to replace MB in my K61, want to replace D510MO with D525MW, but these motherboards are out of stock. I want to try replace it with original D525MW.
The memory different and the motherboard is slightly smaller but that's all as I understand it.
But Korg are changing the MB not me.
Memory difference is don't matter. Would be good to know if motherboard have proprietary BIOS. In that case - we can't simply replace MB with another one.

If your old motherboard still works try changing them over. In theory it should be possible to change it back again if the new MB not recognized.
I'm assuming your Kronos is out of warranty.
Beware though seek more advice before undertaking this work

lonelagranger · Post by **lonelagranger** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:21 pm

I wonder if you could use a bios backup program to save the bios on the Korg motherboard and then install it in the new motherboard. Just a thought. I don't know how much Korg locked down the bios. I know their older keyboards used PC floppy drives. Easy to change and cheap.

dfahrner · Post by **dfahrner** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:58 pm

It was suggested that the KRONOS Sub-System Firmware Version 6.04 update (available for download on the Korg web site) is all that's needed to make the standard off-the-shelf Intel motherboards operate in the KRONOS...the same 6.04 update is used in the KRONOS and the KRONOS X, so it works with both motherboards...has anybody actually installed a stock Intel motherboard successfully in the KRONOS? ???

df

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:28 pm

dfahrner wrote:It was suggested that the KRONOS Sub-System Firmware Version 6.04 update (available for download on the Korg web site) is all that's needed to make the standard off-the-shelf Intel motherboards operate in the KRONOS...the same 6.04 update is used in the KRONOS and the KRONOS X, so it works with both motherboards...has anybody actually installed a stock Intel motherboard successfully in the KRONOS? ???

df

The Sub-System Firmware is for a sub-system - not the motherboard BIOS.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:40 pm

this thread seems somewhat lively.

I have zero concerns about the mobo at this time. I would expect the service centers here in the US to have access to a supply of mobos for some time.

If I were in a country where there is some concern, and I planned to keep my Kronos for 5-10 yrs, it would seem a phone call to the local service center would be the first step. See what they say and go from there.

I also think, again my opinion, is that a successor to the Kronos will happen in 1-2 years. I would likely buy that making any potential worries about the mobo or any part, a moot point.

Trying to put some perspective on this.

dfahrner · Post by **dfahrner** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:45 pm

danatkorg wrote:
dfahrner wrote:It was suggested that the KRONOS Sub-System Firmware Version 6.04 update (available for download on the Korg web site) is all that's needed to make the standard off-the-shelf Intel motherboards operate in the KRONOS...the same 6.04 update is used in the KRONOS and the KRONOS X, so it works with both motherboards...has anybody actually installed a stock Intel motherboard successfully in the KRONOS? ???

df
The Sub-System Firmware is for a sub-system - not the motherboard BIOS.

So does the motherboard in the KRONOS use the standard Intel BIOS, or does it have to be replaced with a custom Korg BIOS?

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:34 pm

dfahrner wrote:
danatkorg wrote:
dfahrner wrote:It was suggested that the KRONOS Sub-System Firmware Version 6.04 update (available for download on the Korg web site) is all that's needed to make the standard off-the-shelf Intel motherboards operate in the KRONOS...the same 6.04 update is used in the KRONOS and the KRONOS X, so it works with both motherboards...has anybody actually installed a stock Intel motherboard successfully in the KRONOS? ???

df
The Sub-System Firmware is for a sub-system - not the motherboard BIOS.
So does the motherboard in the KRONOS use the standard Intel BIOS, or does it have to be replaced with a custom Korg BIOS?

I can't answer this kind of question, sorry. Service for the KRONOS must be done via authorized service centers, and they have access to all of the necessary information.