How important is the Editor to you.

MartinHines · Post by **MartinHines** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:49 am

I really don't understand the purpose of the poll, except to allow people one more chance to complain about the editor.

-- We know Korg mentioned the editor as part of the original Kronos marketing materials
-- We know Korg will release it
-- We know Korg has already missed some stated delivery dates
-- We know it is way overdue
-- We should also know that complaining about the editor is not going to cause Korg to alter its work.

runningman67 · Post by **runningman67** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:48 am

MartinHines wrote:I really don't understand the purpose of the poll, except to allow people one more chance to complain about the editor.

-- We know Korg mentioned the editor as part of the original Kronos marketing materials
-- We know Korg will release it
-- We know Korg has already missed some stated delivery dates
-- We know it is way overdue
-- We should also know that complaining about the editor is not going to cause Korg to alter its work.

I find it interesting to see how the Kronos is being used. The editor isn't that important to me. Seeing the results had made me re think. When it arrives I am going to give it a try. I may be missing out. That's the reason for the poll from my perspective .
It's not to stir things up. It's to look at other peoples opinions. Which is a good thing IMO .

Cheers

Rm

markn · Post by **markn** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:40 am

I found this poll very interesting, especially as it showed, that much less people find it as important, as it appeared to be, by reading all the forumposts regarding the editor in past.

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:34 am

I found the poll interesting as well. To me it shows

a) that the keyword "editor" is misleading concerning the main point. What is missed most is not the editor (we have the big Kronos screen) or librarian (we have PCG Tools), but the VSTi!! So the thread title is as unclear as many expectations of people who aren't aware of the difference. Some posts above clearly show this user misunderstanding.

b) many Kronos users seem to have no experience with hardware synth VSTis, as they are common for any user of an Access Virus TI/TI2, and for some other hardware synths. You can't miss what you don't know or don't understand.

Recording is MUCH smarter and more convenient with a hardware synth VSTi than without. But for people relying on their oldfashioned recording procedures with separate manual midi and audio recording setups (just as we all have to right now), without total recall and without fast direct access to sounds and to advanced automation, the VSTi of course is nothing they are waiting for. Maybe some will never use it, ignoring what it is all about, and keep on regarding it as nice, but not necessary "editor" addon.

Arp_ · Post by **Arp_** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:32 am

JimH wrote:Since the Kronos has a big touch screen right there, an editor doesn't seem that important to me.

And I can place Kronos only on upper tier where it is not that easy to use touchscreen, and PC editor is pretty much the only way I can comfortably edit programs.

zzz · Post by **zzz** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:48 am

To really get into editing requires hours of time at the screen. Given the position of the touch screen, which is great for on the fly changes, and quick forays into the software innards, it still doesn't come close to being able to see loads of large info, all at the same time, on one, or multiple monitors. Also, back and neck strain reduced, and my SQ 80 doesn't overhang my monitor!
Having said that, for a keyboard, the screen is great, I just wouldn't want to use it as my monitor all day. If you were to try and argue the pros and cons if the software was "Word", it's obvious.

TSUNAMI · Post by **TSUNAMI** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:43 pm

With the Kronos being used 60% of the time in my studio it would smooth my workflow hugely !!!

I am a little miffed that there is STILL no sign of it ... pppfffttt

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:38 am

Since I tend to buy instruments likes basses and guitars and keyboards before I'm interested in getting the Internet in my studio and my computer is older than dirt, I have to ask, how is this going to help me? My recording here is generally sketches for my band and since I live in an apartment building I can't record live drums. The things I do record are onto my Yamaha 16G recorder. I'm having a hard time figuring how an editor is going to make my life easier.
Is it on the computer?
Sorry but I'm not really getting this at all.

JimH · Post by **JimH** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:25 am

Arp_ wrote:
JimH wrote:Since the Kronos has a big touch screen right there, an editor doesn't seem that important to me.
And I can place Kronos only on upper tier where it is not that easy to use touchscreen, and PC editor is pretty much the only way I can comfortably edit programs.

Mine is also on the upper tier which makes it tougher with the screen not being angled. I guess it's about ergonomics. My computer is at a right angle to my keyboards, so it can be a pain to work that way too. I'll try the editor when it comes out. I might change my mind.

jahrome · Post by **jahrome** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:41 am

I don't know why I read this thread as I already knew what reaction I would have.

Honestly, I don't care if everyone in this forum didn't want or need the plugin editor. But I do and it was an advertised feature that I have been waiting 10 months for.

I purchased Kronos because I wanted an alternative to buggy software samplers such as Kontakt, Giga Studio, and Mach 5 to use within my DAW. There are times where I just wished I bought a Motif XF which has the functionality I was led to believe the Kronos had.

ScoobyDoo555 · Post by **ScoobyDoo555** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:22 am

Jahrome,

Did you get any joy with getting your Kronos repaired? (not trying to stir it up - just interested to see if you had any closure on that particular issue)

jahrome · Post by **jahrome** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:34 am

The repair went ok. Korg Japan honored my warranty even though I purchased it from a US company. My only issue is that the fan is much louder than before for some reason.

ScoobyDoo555 · Post by **ScoobyDoo555** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:05 am

Good news on the warranty cover though. Was it a quick turn-around?

75631 · Post by **75631** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:48 pm

jimknopf wrote:I found the poll interesting as well. To me it shows

a) that the keyword "editor" is misleading concerning the main point. What is missed most is not the editor (we have the big Kronos screen) or librarian (we have PCG Tools), but the VSTi!!

+1

jimknopf wrote:b) many Kronos users seem to have no experience with hardware synth VSTis, as they are common for any user of an Access Virus TI/TI2, and for some other hardware synths. You can't miss what you don't know or don't understand.

+1

jimknopf wrote:Recording is MUCH smarter and more convenient with a hardware synth VSTi than without.

AMEN!!!

ScoobyDoo555 · Post by **ScoobyDoo555** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:00 pm

With all due respect to the posters involved, that's a pretty bold statement.

Has it occurred to the posters that some people can work with hardware just as quickly as those with a software front-end?

I'm full aware of the virus ti and good it is, but there's a world of difference between editing on the virus's lcd panel compared to Kronos.

Suffice to say that the VST should be here. It isn't though. And for most people (according to he poll) whilst it will useful when it appears, won't render Kronos unusable in the meantime.