cable kanoodling

aron · Post by **aron** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:21 am

Can you show me any evidence - all I am asking is a direct quote or scientific evidence that those cables need break in periods? I do understand that you can hear the difference, but what I am asking is for any type of proof or quote directly from the manufacturer.

Do you also believe in directional cables? How about the $5k+ power cables? There's no end with this.

Finally, I am not doubting that you hear the difference between cables.

aron · Post by **aron** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:26 am

And I DON'T appreciate you doing that to me!!!

You do it to yourself when you make "interesting" claims. Please tell us, how does the cable break in? What exactly happens? Does unplugging or plugging in change things (it could for sure). Do you leave it in place and play loud music through it over time? Is there a way to jump start this? Maybe put more current through the wire? Is it like speaker break in, or capacitor forming? I'm just wondering.

Zeroesque · Post by **Zeroesque** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:45 am

Sina, please contact the James Randi Educational Foundation. They will pay you one million USD to tell your best cables apart from Monster cables. This is not a joke.

JuneauUnderground · Post by **JuneauUnderground** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:35 am

EXer wrote:
Please be smarter than so many so-called "audiophiles" and don't fall in the same fool-trap in which they fall, cf. chapter 1 of this document.
Now that is one of the best things I have read in a long time.

runningman67 · Post by **runningman67** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:16 am

Set yourself a budget.

Do some research of cables, within your budget and buy the ones within the budget. Might be £10 might be £10 000. I've spent about £30 on my cables, can't remember what they are called, but within my budget range, they kept cropping up as being the best, so I bought them.

Simple

Set yourself a budget, unlike the politicians of this world.

Happy Christmas HO HO HO

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:48 am

Actually I never did a good test between cheap and expensive cables, simply because I can't afford to pay $10K for some cabling.

And actually this is good ... if I would not enjoy the kronos anymore with cables below 10K it saves me a lot of money ... so I probably don't even WANT to do such a test

runningman67 · Post by **runningman67** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:02 am

Every industry has items that are artificially over priced .I read that somebody spent £48000 on a bottle of champagne.
I'd rather give it to charity after I've bought a spare Kronos of course !

zengomi · Post by **zengomi** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:39 am

I went for two of these reasonably (overly?) priced Monsters (about US$38 per 3-meter cable).

The Kronos is soon to be my only synth, replacing a Z1 and a Waldorf Micro Q.

Oddly enough, it seems as if it will do a very fair job of more than replicating much of gear that I've owned over the years: Yamaha V50; 01/W pro X; Wavestation A/D; MS-20; Mono/Poly; Memorymoog; Prophecy; Z1. And it complements (in spades) my Akai S5000, which I'm loathe to sell.

So decent cables are a must!

maphill · Post by **maphill** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:15 pm

Just a bit of information:

I got some balanced cables from Monoprice that did not work right. They attenuated high frequencies by more than 6 dB. This was measured doing a loop back with white noise and looking at the average spectral energy.

Most cables are indeed snake-oil. And I often go for Monoprice (ALWAYS for digital cables). But for balanced cables, I cannot recommend them.

Mark
(I'm a Audio DSP Engineer, if that matters to anyone)

P.S. Now I just use digital outs on multiple mixers to a Roland M-1000 mixer (~$250 US on EBay). Better noise floor than even balanced cables with none of the coloring.

JPWC · Post by **JPWC** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:09 pm

I think I'll order Some MIT cables for my monotron

A toyota just passed me by, while sitting in traffic in my Ferrai (red of course)

Just remember $10k cables will not get you a mate, or a hit song, or customers in your studio. But maybe a good tax write-off

If you really believe $10K cable sound that much better than a nice pair of Canare Star-Quad Cable with Balanced Canare connectors.

I've got a new box coming out soon. It's called "THRU". It's the size of a guitar pedal, you don't plug it in, you just position it near the Cable. It's has a reflux capacitor inside, which is self powered.

JFree · Post by **JFree** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:29 pm

I'm with you, put me down for the THRU box. Ah, the internet, a wonderful land of make believe where we can all be all knowing billionaires.

JuneauUnderground · Post by **JuneauUnderground** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:59 pm

maphill wrote:P.S. Now I just use digital outs on multiple mixers to a Roland M-1000 mixer (~$250 US on EBay). Better noise floor than even balanced cables with none of the coloring.

Shhhhhhhh . . . Holding finger to pursed lips. Don't let that secret out of the bag. It will cause the Roland M-1000 price to skyrocket. Already they are hard to come by. Just kidding of course. This is exactly what I m using along with the Apogee Ensemble and Focusrite Octopre MKII Dynamic. Many problems solved. $\:D/$

Lou · Post by **Lou** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:59 am

I can't disagree with Sina here. Think about it this way: You have all top end equipment tied together with a $6. cable.
Sure it will work and sound okay, but if you keep everything in the chain equal to it's counterpart, you will have the optimum on the output.

Likewise, using a $50. cable going into a $200. amp, makes no sense.. jmo

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