"Food for thought" on new OS-What do others think?
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Hi All,
As a Tyros 2 owner (Tyros before that) I am looking at other options prior to the arrival of T3, and have already introduced myself on this forum with another recent query concerning the Pa2X Pro. A couple more questions:
Firstly: This topic of a ‘NEW’ OS interests me and I was wondering if it would it be better to wait (if I’m going to go the Pa2X Pro way at all) until the new OS is out - and presumably pre-installed ready on every new Pa2X from that time on? Also, is it likely that the Pa2X (as it now stands) will in any way be altered physically/internally to coincide with the release of the new OS?
Secondly: I have downloaded the user’s manual and cannot find a panel Sustain button for the Right & Left hand sounds on the Pa2X. There is one on the Tyroses and I make a lot of use of it with some sounds. I know that this effect can be achieved with a foot-switch but I think it’s nice to have it as a dedicated panel button - well, it seems that Yamaha must think so too. So, is the Sustain effect available somewhere else on the Korg… e.g. in an on-on screen menu?
As a Tyros 2 owner (Tyros before that) I am looking at other options prior to the arrival of T3, and have already introduced myself on this forum with another recent query concerning the Pa2X Pro. A couple more questions:
Firstly: This topic of a ‘NEW’ OS interests me and I was wondering if it would it be better to wait (if I’m going to go the Pa2X Pro way at all) until the new OS is out - and presumably pre-installed ready on every new Pa2X from that time on? Also, is it likely that the Pa2X (as it now stands) will in any way be altered physically/internally to coincide with the release of the new OS?
Secondly: I have downloaded the user’s manual and cannot find a panel Sustain button for the Right & Left hand sounds on the Pa2X. There is one on the Tyroses and I make a lot of use of it with some sounds. I know that this effect can be achieved with a foot-switch but I think it’s nice to have it as a dedicated panel button - well, it seems that Yamaha must think so too. So, is the Sustain effect available somewhere else on the Korg… e.g. in an on-on screen menu?
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Hello again Will,will49 wrote:Firstly: This topic of a ‘NEW’ OS interests me and I was wondering if it would it be better to wait (if I’m going to go the Pa2X Pro way at all) until the new OS is out - and presumably pre-installed ready on every new Pa2X from that time on? Also, is it likely that the Pa2X (as it now stands) will in any way be altered physically/internally to coincide with the release of the new OS?
There will be no physical changes to the Pa2x after OS2 is released. There will be significant changes and new features in the OS that may affect the graphics display and the way you interact via the touch screen with the OS. It is easy to upgrade the Pa2x software, and Korg provide the new OS and style and sound upgrades (called Musical Resources) free of charge to existinmg owners for the lifetime of the keyboard. If you do buy a Pa2x now, then everything you do under OS1.11 will be compatible with the new OS2 - you can save your work as .SET files and then import your work after upgrading to the new OS. There is a sticky thread about this, and I will update that thread after OS2 is released to keep it current.
There is no panel sustain button for lead parts, but the "Memory" button can achieve similar effect with style parts. An alternative is to edit a lead sound to make it "monophonic" and then use a MIDI pedal to generate sustain on and sustain off via switches (or just hold the footpedal down). That way you won't run out of polyphony and the lead part will flow nicely without dischords bulding up (these being disadvantages of using panel sustain on the Tyros).will49 wrote:Secondly: I have downloaded the user’s manual and cannot find a panel Sustain button for the Right & Left hand sounds on the Pa2X. There is one on the Tyroses and I make a lot of use of it with some sounds. I know that this effect can be achieved with a foot-switch but I think it’s nice to have it as a dedicated panel button - well, it seems that Yamaha must think so too. So, is the Sustain effect available somewhere else on the Korg… e.g. in an on-on screen menu?
Hello Robert,
Many thanks for the info. concerning the new OS, as well as my sustain effect query. As regards the latter, I sometimes alter the release time of a given sound in order to achieve a similar (sustain) effect, then save it as a User sound. But this is probably a different edit procedure to what you are suggesting as there is then no need for the subsequent use of a MIDI pedal to trigger sustain. Does that sound right or..... not?
Many thanks for the info. concerning the new OS, as well as my sustain effect query. As regards the latter, I sometimes alter the release time of a given sound in order to achieve a similar (sustain) effect, then save it as a User sound. But this is probably a different edit procedure to what you are suggesting as there is then no need for the subsequent use of a MIDI pedal to trigger sustain. Does that sound right or..... not?
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Hi Will,
Extending the release time on a polyphonic sound makes all the notes overlap. You can get dischords etc, depends what notes you play. It can get very messy.
Editing a sound and making it monophonic means you can't get a dischord (since you can't play a chord). You can also make the release time infinite if you want. The next note you play will cut the previous one off in its tracks! Then you won't need a sustain pedal.
Extending the release time on a polyphonic sound makes all the notes overlap. You can get dischords etc, depends what notes you play. It can get very messy.
Editing a sound and making it monophonic means you can't get a dischord (since you can't play a chord). You can also make the release time infinite if you want. The next note you play will cut the previous one off in its tracks! Then you won't need a sustain pedal.
Hi Robert,Rob Sherratt wrote:Hi Will,
Extending the release time on a polyphonic sound makes all the notes overlap. You can get dischords etc, depends what notes you play. It can get very messy.
Editing a sound and making it monophonic means you can't get a dischord (since you can't play a chord). You can also make the release time infinite if you want. The next note you play will cut the previous one off in its tracks! Then you won't need a sustain pedal.
Again, many thanks for your reply. Indeed, you are right when you say that sustaining a polyphonic sound in this way can make things sound "messy". I should have added that, when in this situation, I often hit the MONO button on the Tyros' panel. This, of course, renders the sound monophonic instantly.
Regards,
Will
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Hi Robert,Rob Sherratt wrote:Hi Will,
...There is no "manual sustain" or "mono" button on the Pa2x/Pa800.
Thanks again. I don't think that the omission of the two said buttons would deter me from buying a Pa2X Pro; however, I will probably wait and see what Yamaha has done for the T3 first though.
Cheers,
Will