Assuming you're not yanking my giggle chain, may i retort?Pygmy wrote:Oh I can certainly understand you think they're quite powerful and creative, if you've never used any of the previous 12 Electribes, or any Roland music production station, or a Yamaha RS7000 or even the RM1X, or any Quasimidi groovebox, or...apapdop wrote:Wow, there's some manly s**t going down here tonite!!! I feel very inferior and limpdick for actually thinking the new ones are really quite powerful and creative...
Wait a minute, let me rephrase that.
Lots of grooveboxes of the past 25 years implemented simple stuff like
assignable configurable midi-in/out per part,
step-sequencing,
data copying/moving/transposing,
8 bars or more per pattern,
song-modes,
actually being able to do 32 / 64 note polyphony (independent of effects applied) without voice stealing,
time-stretching on samples,
sending program/bank changes to other external equipment,
gapless pattern saving,
decent sample editor in-the-box,
effects applicable on sound-input,
reverb on individual parts...
and that's just *some* of the features I can think of that 10 to 25 year old grooveboxes had that the new E2's don't.
But if you just started using audio equipment and the E2 makes you feel like a Superstar DJ, hey, more power to you.
I'd just appreciate it if you didn't go around acting like other people are stupid just because they have more experience with gear than you do.
I started making music in 1996 using a Pentium PC, a Soundblaster AWE32 soundcard and Cubasis Audio. In 1998, i bought a Yamaha RM1x and a Yamaha a3000 sampler. A couple of years later, i added a Yamaha DX200 FM groovebox. I was happy with this little rig.
In 2005 i stupidly sold it all for a laptop running Cakewalk Project 5. This drained away all my creativity and enthusiasm for making music. I did a couple of years with the Traktor laptop DJ thing (sadly not reaching Superstar Status...), that got stale too yadayadayada...
I bought an ipad in 2011, the first apps i got were the iElectribe ones. Other apps joined in, but the electribe way of working really appealed to me, so i started back on the hardware.
Until last week, i had 5 electribes. An ER-1 mk2, an ESX-1, an EMX-1 and the Black and Grey ones. I'm more into sampling than synths, so prior to the new ones coming out, i thought the ESX-1 was the best money i had ever spent. Then i bought the Grey Electribe at the end of 2014. Since then, i never touched my EMX-1. I was going to hold out on buying the Black Sampler, because i knew that would be the end of my beloved ESX-1. But i am weak willed. I bought it and, sure enough, the ESX-1 has been untouched.
Christmas is coming, so hey, i could do with the money, last week i sold the ESX-1 and the EMX-1 on eBay. The ER-1 goes with me to the grave. Oh, i had an EA-1 for a while too. I thought it was s**t.
Despite the new models having none of the features you listed, i've found that since i started using the new Electribes, making music has been the most fun, the quickest, the easiest, the most portable, the most rewarding and the most productive it has ever been for me. I'm sure the music i'm making with these severly limited machines is nowhere as good as your stuff, but hey, that's how it is for me.
Would i swap the two new Electribes for my old Yamaha rig? No way. Not in a million years.
My previous post was a sarcastic, alcohol-fuelled response to what i perceived as all the chest bumping, school playground my-groovebox-is-better-than-your-groovebox posts on the thread. I apologise if somehow you took this as me implying that some people are stupid...
