Is there anyway to simulation tremolo on EXi engins

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Is there anyway to simulation tremolo on EXi engins

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Hi
I know how to simulation tremolo effect and how assign it to a controller like Y+

but for sounds with long decay / sustain

is there anyway to do that for plucked sound "short decay"?

I tried to use Step Sequencer but it also doesn't work


This man showed his own Kronos sounds and he does not use any Sampler
all of his sounds programmed using Al1, Str1, Mod7 I MS20 Exi engines
So I think there is a way to do what he did
You can watch what I refer to........ here "5:49"
https://youtu.be/nqRBY3CSmR0?t=348


It seems to be the STR-1 engine
Perhaps he used Tremolo PCM and forgot to mention that
But he confirmed by describing the video that he only used the sounds of these engines

video description: "translated"
Set for Kronos built on EXi plugins owned by Kronos and Nautilus.
The set is built on AL1, STR1, Mod7 and MS20 EXi and does not use any samples.
The set contains about 150 colors for solo

Thanks in advance 🙏
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It might be possible to contact the guy in the video directly, to find out more, as there is what looks like a phone number at the bottom of the video description.

KARMA seems to be enabled for that particular Program or Combi in the video, so it might be being used as an instrument retrigger, for the reiterant type tremolo.

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voip wrote:It might be possible to contact the guy in the video directly, to find out more, as there is what looks like a phone number at the bottom of the video description.

KARMA seems to be enabled for that particular Program or Combi in the video, so it might be being used as an instrument retrigger, for the reiterant type tremolo.

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Thank you Voip :P

I sent him a message on the phone to buy his SET and did not answer .... and I wrote a comment and did not answer either

Do you have any tips on Karma? I got my Kronos a short time ago and I haven't discovered all of these things yet :)
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I will add a clarification in video owner's statement ...
He does not use any external samples , since this tremolo is factory OUD tremolo multisample for sure assigned to +Y ! :D

Simulation of plucked sound re-triggering can be achieved by Square LFO AMS to Amp , via Wave Sequencing with parameters and
via Karma programming.
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AntonySharmman wrote:I will add a clarification in video owner's statement ...
He does not use any external samples , since this tremolo is factory OUD tremolo multisample for sure assigned to +Y ! :D

Simulation of plucked sound re-triggering can be achieved by Square LFO AMS to Amp , via Wave Sequencing with parameters and
via Karma programming.
Thank you Antony
this is interesting, so .... there is a way through Wave Sequencing or karma and can be set to any AMS like Y+ for EXi engines?
I took a quick look at the KRONOS_Param_Guide guide, specifically the Alternate Modulation Sources (AMS) part, and I only found the Wave Sequencing option as AMS in the HD-1 eingine, did I miss something?
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AntonySharmman wrote:Simulation of plucked sound re-triggering can be achieved by Square LFO AMS to Amp , via Wave Sequencing with parameters and via Karma programming.
This would be very useful for tuned percussion as well. Thinking steel drums or kalimba. Seems that Karma arpeggiator would be a good way to to make interesting tremolo effects based on the notes or chords you play. Pointers to tutorial documentation or video would be welcome!
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There is a KARMA GE that is made for doing "mallet rolls" and similar effects, which could be used for this type of tremolo effect I think you are talking about (repeatedly triggering the note).

I wrote a post awhile ago about how to do it:

https://forums.karma-lab.com/forum/show ... hp?t=19292
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StephenKay wrote:There is a KARMA GE that is made for doing "mallet rolls" and similar effects, which could be used for this type of tremolo effect I think you are talking about (repeatedly triggering the note).

I wrote a post awhile ago about how to do it:

https://forums.karma-lab.com/forum/show ... hp?t=19292
Thank you! This is really useful!
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There are many techniques for creating repeating notes and the best IMO is to use it manually using 2 OSC triggering one normal and one
triggered by note release especially for percussion and if WSeq is involved per OSC , then you can also apply many levels of Round-Robin.

I want also to point out how important is Karma module of Stephen for Kronos in advanced sound development with Scenes and switches
that gives us direct access to sound engine saving polyphony for very complex Symphonic Sounds and instruments full articulation.

Discontinued Karma module in Nautilus and any future korg workstation is a huge downgrade and will never beat Kronos in advanced
sound development and features that only Karma provides ...
Thank you Stephen Kay for providing us Kronos engine features that are unique for VST level sound development and ended up with Kronos 2 !
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Thank you all for the useful posts 🙏

I tried Stephen method and succeeded, but I do not want to apply the effect according to the Velocity I want through Y+ Is there a way to do that through karma? please let me know 👍
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ANAFREE wrote:I tried Stephen method and succeeded, but I do not want to apply the effect according to the Velocity I want through Y+ Is there a way to do that through karma? please let me know 👍
Yes, it should be possible. I didn't try this, but change the Dynamic MIDI setting from Velocity to JS +Y, then set the bottom of the range to something like 100, so that is should switch on when the JS +Y goes above 100.
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AntonySharmman wrote:Thank you Stephen Kay for providing us Kronos engine features that are unique for VST level sound development and ended up with Kronos 2 !
Thank you kindly. :)
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StephenKay wrote:
ANAFREE wrote:I tried Stephen method and succeeded, but I do not want to apply the effect according to the Velocity I want through Y+ Is there a way to do that through karma? please let me know 👍
Yes, it should be possible. I didn't try this, but change the Dynamic MIDI setting from Velocity to JS +Y, then set the bottom of the range to something like 100, so that is should switch on when the JS +Y goes above 100.
Thank you very much Steven
Unfortunately, my attempt did not succeed despite applying all the steps
Karma effect still works by velocity value.
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ANAFREE wrote:Unfortunately, my attempt did not succeed despite applying all the steps
Karma effect still works by velocity value.
I will see if I can find time to map out the exact steps to change.
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StephenKay wrote:
ANAFREE wrote:Unfortunately, my attempt did not succeed despite applying all the steps
Karma effect still works by velocity value.
I will see if I can find time to map out the exact steps to change.
Thank you Stephen, That's very kind of you 🌹
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