Audio Track Recording No Space on Medium

[blazerunner]

Hello

After some time yelling into my pillow I'm back at learning my Kronos again.

Todays adventure is the Sequencer. I'm recording audio tracks. I go to record my piece and the sequencer stops and gives me a message "No space on Medium". Baffled I go to the disk and delete some songs I had on there to free up disk space. I go back into my song to record and I get the same message again.

I go to play my sequence and some elements of the song I was recording is missing now and I don't know why. I go and reset my Kronos and load back up my program and get back to were I was and it's letting me record now with no message.

I notice when I record even when I use the "compare" feature to erase my mistakes that the "TAKE" part of the recording sessions goes up a number on the track. I've read in the manual something about the Kronos saving different takes. I've never been able how to figure out how to go back and load different takes but I'm imagining that these takes are being stored somewhere that's eating up my space.

Is there anyway to delete the takes you don't want to save to free up space? I feel like that was what caused my original problem. I also noticed that my Kronos seems kind of bugged. Sometimes when I play tracks part of the track is missing and I'm wondering if it's because of the disk space being consumed.

Frustrated but still trying. Thanks for any help or advice in advance.

[GregC]

Hello

After some time yelling into my pillow I'm back at learning my Kronos again.

Todays adventure is the Sequencer. I'm recording audio tracks. I go to record my piece and the sequencer stops and gives me a message "No space on Medium". .

your post sounds familiar.

need more details: are you recording guitar or tuba straight into your SEQ ?

I can't tell

[blazerunner]

Hello again Greg C!

I was recording some samples played through my MPC into the Kronos VIA the audio inputs.

[KingKronos]

You can delete unused wave files in disk mode.

Also, check out the operation manual in the sequencer section. It talks about temporary wave files. Those might also be wasting your hard drive space.

[GregC]

Hello again Greg C!

I was recording some samples played through my MPC into the Kronos VIA the audio inputs.

hi, I dug around and there are some audio/SEQ file limits.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... 133e595f95

There is the standard limit on your SSD. In addition to whatever SEQ audio track limits, I would scrutinize your available SSD space.

Plus google any other audio recording limits on Kronos SEQ audio tracks

I can't be much help, since I can't see whats going on with the size of your audio samples, what SSD space is available, and what SEQ/audio recording track limits exist.

24 bit recordings will def use more SSD space. I always use 16 bit recordings, and feel that is adequate for my songs.

[blazerunner]

Thanks for the tips. I think it's about time to upgrade the Disk. It might of been my temp files. I tried to delete them before but I botched it and ruined my song. I have a hard time following the manual sometimes it answers my questions and sometimes I run into issues that it doesn't even address.Still waiting on Korg to get back to me about those questions...it's only been 3 months egh

[GregC]

Thanks for the tips. I think it's about time to upgrade the Disk. It might of been my temp files. I tried to delete them before but I botched it and ruined my song. I have a hard time following the manual sometimes it answers my questions and sometimes I run into issues that it doesn't even address.Still waiting on Korg to get back to me about those questions...it's only been 3 months egh

I can't recall if you said you have a K1 or a k2.

Just the same, the factory SSD is not enough if you seriously record. And buy a few 3rd party sample Libs.

I am fussy on file management and knowing my storage #'s on my SSD's, USB's and various files. Sort of a Look before you Leap thing. Been doing this 10 years on my Kronos 1.

[blazerunner]

I have a Kronos2. The factory SSD is way under powered. Perhaps they just thought people would use it for Midi recording only??? because audio files eat it up very quickly and if you're like me and tedious about recording you probably use a lot of tracks for different elements of a song so you can tweak every individual thing you want.

I know it's long past time to upgrade I'm just nervous about adding on 3rd party drives. I've had so many bad experiences swapping in drives and losing all my stuff when the drive goes bonk. I've gotten used to the limitations of the Kronos's sequencer. It's heavy midi influenced and not so audio friendly and hard to edit with precision.

I hope in the future to get a decent computer and just use that for recording and break away from the Kronos and the sequencer issues I run into. It might of been a cool sequencer 10 years ago but in 2021 it's heavily out of date. Getting hit with track limits should be a thing of a the past. Drive space should be plentiful and the ability to record in abundance.

Just to give you an idea my Akai Force has a 128 track limit. Compare that to Kronos's 16 Midi and 16 audio tracks and your ideas feel claustrophobic. I thought the Midi tracks would leave me needed audio tracks less but I realized that when you record if you need to record performance data that you need to take up an entire track to record the performance data in just to control what you want one track to do.

It's strange that if I want to mute,toggle switches or use the little silver joystick I have to record it on a separate track. The Kronos doesn't seem to isolate that data to just the one track you want to add performance data too. It seems to be global. That's what I asked Korg about because it's not in the manual but I haven't heard back from them on it.

As always thanks for the help I depend on my fellow Kronos user for advice and assistance as I learn this thing and I'm sure many others appreciate it too.

[GregC]

I have a Kronos2. The factory SSD is way under powered. Perhaps they just thought people would use it for Midi recording only??? because audio files eat it up very quickly and if you're like me and tedious about recording you probably use a lot of tracks for different elements of a song so you can tweak every individual thing you want.

I know it's long past time to upgrade I'm just nervous about adding on 3rd party drives. I've had so many bad experiences swapping in drives and losing all my stuff when the drive goes bonk. I've gotten used to the limitations of the Kronos's sequencer. It's heavy midi influenced and not so audio friendly and hard to edit with precision.

sure, 50 GB will only go so far. You have to get over the hump and install a 2nd SSD. 100's of owners have done this successfully.

Or have a friend install it. There are 100's maybe 1000's of owners who have been successful. There are 100's of posts here and on YT on getting it done.

Midi is simply a means to organize and create and take advantage of the many great Kronos sounds . I have been productive for over 4 years on taking advantage of Kronos strengths.

For my purposes, I am satisfied . My listeners don't care if I use 10 tracks or 128.

I think much depends on what your goals are for music. And how to get productive. I have stated this numerous times. Its about approach.

“Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication." Leonardo da Vinci.

[wocongming]

SO. in disk mode there will be another folder that would have been saved when you saved all. that folder contains your audio tracks. just go in and delete the ones you dont want. you can play each one to see if that take was bad or good. btw, this should decrease some of your used memory space. however, those takes might still be showing in your recording. also, every once in a while, youll go to record an audio track and it will read something like ...already recorded on that take or something like that... what you need to do is go to the take number and change the name of it by maybe deleting the _ or whatever, then it will record for you starting on that name. as far as insuring memory issues, just copy and past all saved filed onto a thumb drive or flash drive and keep them all there and dont keep much in your ssd drive. just know that when you want to load them back into the keyboard, youll have to copy and paste those files back into the ssd drive in order to load the audio files back into seq mode. hope this helps!

[blazerunner]

“Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication." Leonardo da Vinci.

Yeah, the Kronos offers some great features. I know my complaints may be harsh or indifferent but that's because I'm attempting to use the Kronos as a main recorder and I'm learning the sequencer is more for creating song ideas than anything else.

[GregC]

“Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication." Leonardo da Vinci.

Yeah, the Kronos offers some great features. I know my complaints may be harsh or indifferent but that's because I'm attempting to use the Kronos as a main recorder and I'm learning the sequencer is more for creating song ideas than anything else.

I hear you, I wouldn't have thought of using samples from the MPC and transferring them into an audio track.

I have used audio tracks for sound FX and isolated vocals. They were ' pre-cooked ' in Audacity.
Then I used 10 or more Kronos instrument midi tracks to support them.

The ISO vocals were a hassle due to tempo problems. The timing was never perfect.

I also got my thumbs burnt using existing vocals. Copyright .
Game over.

I don't know what your exact goals are but its a guess you should use Cubase or ProTools for your studio recording. Its not easy, but the DAW will recognize your Kronos.

I am switching over to Cubase this year. It sees my MODX without brain surgery.

I still enjoy banging out/recording songs, 100% Kronos. Like an old pair of running shoes.

[kronoskarma]

I bought a brand new Kronos 2 Titanium and the 1st thing I did after taking it out of the shipping box was install a 2TB SSD into the second slot.

I have computer repair experience, so this was not a hard thing for me. The Kronos 2 has a 2nd power jack for the SSD (SATA) available, just unscrew the metal spacer and take off the plastic zip tie.

You will need to unscrew the myriad of screws on the bottom. Make sure to find a nice solid surface and lay down a blanket to rest the Kronos on, upside down. Hint: find a masking tape ring and put that underneath the vector joystick to protect it from damage. Make sure to have something metal close by so you can remove all static electricity from your body by touching it with both hands before you go near the innards of the Kronos.

You will need to buy a SATA cable (about 2ft.) and the SSD SATA drive of course (2.5"). You will also need two or four SATA drive screws. The Kronos only has 2 available. Plug the SATA cable into the available SATA port on the motherboard. Run the cable underneath the other cables (just follow the other SATA cable) and secure if possible. Plug in the power AND the SATA data cable to the back of the SSD drive BEFORE you screw in the drive. Now screw the four screws in - gently and loosely until all four are in and then tighten.

Now close up by putting the metal bottom back on and screwing back in all those screws.

Plug it in. turn it on and then go to the DISK menu and click the top-right. Choose format drive and choose the new drive from the drop-down list.

Formatting will take a few minutes. Once done, you now have another drive to save all your data.

Mike